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This group is dedicated to growing a deeper understanding of the Hellenistic philosophy of Stoicism and how to apply this school of thought to modern day life. Other schools are always welcome and appreciated, however Stoicism is the main subject.
In the spirit of the origin of Stoicism, where they met in the Stoa Poikile and drank wine while discussing philosophy, we shall meet at restaurants, taverns, etc. and discuss with like minded individuals. Check out www.StudentsofStoicism.com for additional resources in Stoic philosophy.
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The Pillar of Stoic Ethics: On Appropriate Acts 2/4
State 48 Lager House, 15600 N Hayden Rd, Scottsdale, AZ, US# Pillar of Stoic Ethics: Appropriate Action, Virtue, and the Hidden Bargain
Welcome back, fellow students!
At our last meeting, we began working through Cicero’s account of Stoic ethics in On Moral Ends, Book III. We made good progress, but we did not finish the argument, and this material deserves more than a rushed conclusion. For this meeting, we will continue exactly where we left off.
Last time, we followed the Stoic account of moral development from our earliest instinct for self-preservation toward a life increasingly shaped by reason, social responsibility, and moral understanding. This time, we will focus more closely on one of the most important distinctions in Stoic ethics: the difference between doing the right thing and actually being virtuous.
The Stoics distinguished between an appropriate act, or kathēkon, and a fully right action, or katorthōma. An appropriate act is one for which a reasonable justification can be given. Caring for your health, helping a friend, honoring your parents, fulfilling your responsibilities, and doing your work well can all qualify as appropriate actions.
However, the Stoics argued that outward behavior alone does not determine whether an action is virtuous. The same action can be performed from fear, habit, reputation, obligation, desire for approval, or hope for a particular result. A fully right action is performed from a stable and correct understanding of what is truly good, what is merely preferred or dispreferred, and what is actually within our control.
From the outside, two actions may look identical. Internally, they may be very different.
Chrysippus puts the problem sharply when he says, “The man who progresses to the furthest point performs all proper functions without exception and omits none. Yet his life is not yet happy — happiness supervenes on it when these intermediate actions acquire firmness and tenor and their own particular fixity.”
This leaves us with an uncomfortable but important possibility. A person might consistently do the right things and still not yet possess virtue. If that is true, then what exactly is missing? That is the question we will take up together.## Reading Assignment
Please return to the remainder of Book III of Cicero’s On Moral Ends. As you read, pay particular attention to the development from self-preservation toward rational and social concern, the distinction between preferred and dispreferred indifferents, the nature of appropriate acts, the claim that virtue is the only genuine good, and the difference between appropriate actions and fully right actions.
We will also revisit Cicero’s archer analogy. The Stoic archer does everything in their power to aim well, but whether the arrow actually strikes the target is not entirely under their control. The quality of the action lies in the aiming, not in the outcome.
If you attended the previous meeting, this is a chance to return to the argument with sharper questions. If you missed it, you can still join us, as we will briefly reconstruct the framework before continuing.## Group Exercise: The Hidden Bargain
For this meeting, bring one real event from your own life in which you believe you did the right thing.
It might involve helping someone, staying loyal, telling an uncomfortable truth, accepting responsibility, making a sacrifice, defending someone, forgiving someone, walking away from a situation, or simply doing what you believed your role required.
We will begin by asking what made the action appropriate. What role, relationship, circumstance, or principle gave you reason to act as you did?
Then we will look more closely at what you hoped would happen because of your action. Perhaps you expected gratitude, recognition, loyalty, forgiveness, success, fair treatment, reconciliation, or some other outcome.
The harder question is whether there was a hidden bargain beneath the action. Were you, perhaps without realizing it, thinking that because you behaved well, the world now owed you a certain result? Were you expecting that your sacrifice should be recognized, that your loyalty should be returned, or that doing the right thing should somehow guarantee a good outcome?
We will then remove the payoff.
Imagine that the preferred outcome never happens. The person never thanks you. The relationship still ends. You lose the opportunity. The person you defended later turns against you. Your sacrifice changes nothing. Nobody ever knows what you did.
Would you still choose the same action?
If your answer changes, what does that reveal about what you actually regarded as valuable? Were you treating the outcome as a preferred indifferent, or had it quietly become part of what you regarded as genuinely good?
Finally, we will apply Cicero’s archer analogy. Was the good located in aiming well, or did you need the arrow to hit the target before the action felt worthwhile?
This leads us to the most difficult question of the exercise. If you would not have chosen the action had you known the outcome in advance, was the action ever really chosen for the sake of virtue?
There may not be an easy answer. That is exactly where the discussion becomes interesting.## Monthly Practice: The Role Inventory
Epictetus suggests that appropriate actions emerge partly from the roles and relationships we occupy. This month, make a list of the roles you currently hold, such as parent, child, sibling, employee, leader, friend, neighbor, citizen, student, partner, or mentor.
Choose three of those roles and ask what each one reasonably requires of you. Consider where you are meeting those responsibilities well and where you are falling short. Then ask yourself one additional question: are you fulfilling these roles because you understand why they matter, or because you expect something in return?## Monthly Practice: The Archer’s Journal
Choose one goal you are working toward this month. At the end of each day, ask yourself two separate questions.
First, did you aim well? In other words, did you make the best judgment and effort available to you?
Second, did you hit the target? Did you actually get the result you wanted?
Keep those two answers separate. Over time, notice how often your sense of success depends on the second question rather than the first.
The Stoic experiment is to see whether those two things can gradually come apart.## Join Us Virtually
If you cannot attend in person, you are welcome to join through Teams using the Virtual Meetup Link.
## Access the Readings
📥 Free PDF – Students of Stoicism
📥 Cicero, On Moral Ends – Internet Archive
📖 Cicero, On Moral Ends on Amazon## Additional Resources
If you would like to revisit the foundations we have already covered, you can review the Three Pillars of Stoicism at studentsofstoicism.com/about-stoicism, consult the Stoic terms glossary at studentsofstoicism.com/glossary-of-stoic-terms, or revisit previous materials at studentsofstoicism.com/online-resources.
We left Cicero unfinished last time. This month, we return to the argument and ask a harder question: when we do the right thing, what are we secretly asking the world to give us in return?13 attendees
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