About us
"Wisdom and Woe" is a philosophy and literature discussion group dedicated to exploring the world, work, life, and times of Herman Melville and the 19th century Romantic movement. We will read and discuss topics related to:
- Works of Herman Melville: Moby-Dick, Clarel, Bartleby the Scrivener, Billy Budd, The Confidence-Man, Mardi, reviews, correspondence, etc.
- Themes and affinities: whales, cannibals, shipwrecks, theodicy, narcissism, exile, freedom, slavery, redemption, democracy, law, orientalism, Zoroastrianism, Gnosticism, psychology, mythology, etc.
- Influences and sources: the Bible, Shakespeare, Hawthorne, Milton, Cervantes, Dante, Emerson, Kant, Plato, Romanticism, Stoicism, etc.
- Legacy and impact: adaptations, derivations, artworks, analysis, criticism, etc.
- And more
The group is free and open to anybody with an interest in learning and growing by "diving deeper" (as Hawthorne once said of his conversations with Melville) into "time and eternity, things of this world and of the next, and books, and publishers, and all possible and impossible matters."
Regarding the name of the group:
"There is a wisdom that is woe; but there is a woe that is madness. And there is a Catskill eagle in some souls that can alike dive down into the blackest gorges, and soar out of them again and become invisible in the sunny spaces."
(Moby-Dick, 96)
"Though wisdom be wedded to woe, though the way thereto is by tears, yet all ends in a shout." (Mardi, 2.79)
"The intensest light of reason and revelation combined, can not shed such blazonings upon the deeper truths in man, as will sometimes proceed from his own profoundest gloom. Utter darkness is then his light.... Wherefore is it, that not to know Gloom and Grief is not to know aught that an heroic man should learn?" (The Ambiguities, 9.3)
"The heart of the wise is in the house of mourning; but the heart of fools is in the house of mirth." (Ecclesiastes 7:4)
Upcoming events
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Symbols of the Mother and of Rebirth - Carl Jung
·OnlineOnlineThe Symbols of Transformation (1912) represents a milestone in the rupture between Freud and Jung. Concluding that sexual desire is inadequate as a universal explanation for neurosis, Jung rejects Freud's "so-called Oedipus complex with its famous incest tendency." Instead he theorizes "a 'Jonah-and-the-Whale' complex, which has any number of variants, for instance the witch who eats children, the wolf, the ogre, the dragon, and so on."
The defining feature of this complex is the subject's irrational desire to regress to the safety of the womb, distinguished from Freud's Oedipus as a non-sexual reunion with the mother. But Jung's myth is also distinguishable by its optimistic (rather than tragic) resolution. Just as Jonah's internment in the belly of the whale incites repentance and restores his relationship with God, so the neurotic subject--through a radical confrontation with one's inner darkness--may gestate a profound psychological emancipation and "rebirth."
For Jung, then, religion is not a mere fugitive of Enlightenment rationality (ala Freud), but a custodian of symbolic stories to facilitate self-realization, constructively channeling instinctual forces into vital civil and spiritual purposes.
In "Symbols of the Mother and of Rebirth" (Part 2, chapter 5 of The Symbols of Transformation), Jung uses his case study of "Miss Miller" to analyze maternal imagery and motifs, and elaborates his theory of the "Jonah-and-the-Whale complex."
The Symbols of Transformation:
- pdf (see Part 2, chapter 5)
Symbols of the Mother and of Rebirth:
Supplemental:
- Jonah and the Whale: A Dream for Our Time This Jungian Life podcast
- DRAGON: The Archetypal Monster and Ally Within This Jungian Life podcast
- Lecture on Abraham Maslow The Jonah Complex
Extracts:
- "Yes, as every one knows, meditation and water are wedded for ever." (Moby-Dick, 1)
This meetup is part of the series In the Belly of the Whale.
25 attendees
The Book of Jonah
·OnlineOnlineThe Book of Jonah is one of the most recognizable, most curious, and most strangely compelling in the Bible. For centuries, it has inspired sermons, art, literature, music, and debate (including debate about whether the story is history, parable, allegory, or satire). Despite its familiarity and antiquity, it is filled with surprises and themes that are still relevant.
As sacred text, it serves as a source of revelation and wisdom about the divine. But Jonah is a paradoxical figure: he is a prophet almost without a message and nearly lacking the courage to convey it. And the Book's brevity--"one of the smallest strands in the mighty cable of the Scriptures"--belies its rapid shifts in scene and plethora of challenges to the hero. Besides the famous "great fish" (or whale, in fact a small part of the narrative) it features storms and sailors, rebellion and rescue, preaching and protest, and a miraculous plant and miraculous worms that devour it.
The Book of Jonah:
Supplemental:
- Animated overview
- The World in Time podcast on "The Sermon"
- Jonah and the Varieties of Religious Motivation
- In the Belly of the Whale song by Newsboys
- "Jonah and the Whale" S2E01 of Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea
Extracts:
- “Now the Lord had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah.” -Jonah (Moby-Dick, Extracts)
- "... in those jaws of swift destruction, like another cursed Jonah... bustles a little withered old man, who, for their money, dearly sells the sailors deliriums and death." (Moby-Dick, 3)
- "Shipmates, this book, containing only four chapters—four yarns—is one of the smallest strands in the mighty cable of the Scriptures. Yet what depths of the soul does Jonah’s deep sea-line sound!" (Moby-Dick, 9)
- "Be it known that, waiving all argument, I take the good old fashioned ground that the whale is a fish, and call upon holy Jonah to back me." (Moby-Dick, 32)
- "They may circumnavigate the world fifty times, and they see about as much of it as Jonah did in the whale’s belly." (White-Jacket, 3)
- "Damn you, you Jonah! I don’t see how you can sleep in your hammock..." (White-Jacket, 78)
- "And here in the black bowels of the ship, sunk low in the sunless sea, our poor Israel lay for a month, like Jonah in the belly of the whale." (Israel Potter, 3)
- "Over this lip, as over a slippery threshold, we now slide into the mouth. Upon my word were I at Mackinaw, I should take this to be the inside of an Indian wigwam. Good Lord! is this the road that Jonah went?" (Moby-Dick, 75)
- "And no doubt, if Jonah himself could be summoned to the stand, he would cheerfully testify to his not having heard a single syllable, growl, grunt, or bellow engendered in the ventricle cells of the leviathan, during the irksome period of his incarceration therein." ("Etchings of a Whaling Cruise")
- "I am the only traveller sojourning in Joppa. I am emphatically alone, & begin to feel like Jonah." (Journals, 20 Jan 1857)
- "The genuine Jonah feeling, in Joppa.... it is only by stern self-control and firm defiance that I contrive to keep cool and patient." (Journals, 22 Jan 1857)
This meetup is part of the series In the Belly of the Whale.
25 attendees
The Dark Night - St. John of the Cross
·OnlineOnlineSt. John of the Cross (1542-1591) was a 16th-century Spanish mystic and poet, ranked among such great intellectual and philosophical theologians such as St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas. After 1567, when he joined with Teresa of Ávila to institute reforms in the Carmelite order, opponents of the reform had him arrested, imprisoned, and subjected to public floggings. His ordeal lasted for nine months, but it provided the foundational experience for much of his subsequent poetry and spiritual writings.
"The Dark Night" ("Noche Oscura," c. 1577) is his poem and commentary of the same name, a masterpiece of mystical Christian literature. He coined the term "the dark night" to describe a painful series of purifications on the spiritual journey towards union with God. In the first phase (the night of sense), the soul begins to practice self-denial and detachment from worldly desires. In the second phase (the night of spirit), the divine light reveals the soul's own imperfections and sins. During this process, the soul suffers great anguish, feeling abandoned and forsaken, but perseverance promises an ultimate revelation of peace, love, and knowledge of God.
The writings of St. John have influenced centuries of theologians, philosophers, artists, poets, and psychologists. The concept of "the dark night" has been adopted to mean an intense period of personal crisis, emotional hardship, and/or deep introspection. Joseph Campbell states "The dark night of the soul comes just before revelation. When everything is lost, and all seems darkness, then comes the new life and all that is needed." Night-evoking places--e.g., the abyss, a cave, prison, or belly of the whale--are regarded as both tomb and womb, death and renewal, on the way through Campbell's hero's journey.
Dark Night of the Soul:
- Google books
- Librivox 5:01 hrs
Supplemental:
- Understanding the Dark Night of St. John of the Cross, pt. 1 - lecture by Fr. Timothy Gallagher
- Understanding the Dark Night of St. John of the Cross, pt. 2 - lecture by Fr. Timothy Gallagher
- The Great Books podcast episode #368
- The Dark Night of the Soul song by Loreena McKennitt
Extracts:
- "Eloi lama sabachthani!" (Clarel, 3.7)
- "...jetting came a wail / In litany from Kedron’s jail / Profound, and belly of the whale: / “Lord, have mercy. / Christ, have mercy. / Intercede for me, / Angel of the Agony. / Spare me, spare me! Merciful be— / Lord, spare me— / Spare and deliver me!”" (Clarel, 3.14)
This meetup is part of the series In the Belly of the Whale.
12 attendees
A Narrative of Captivity - Ethan Allen
·OnlineOnlineEthan Allen (1738-1789) was a farmer, businessman, philosopher, writer, lay theologian, politician, and American Revolutionary War hero. After he and his "Green Mountain Boys" made their celebrated capture of Fort Ticonderoga from the British, Allen led an attack on Montreal. But at the Battle of Longue-Pointe, his forces were scattered and he and thirty of his men were captured. He spent nearly three years languishing in British prison ships, under execrable conditions, before he was released in May of 1778.
Allen's Narrative of Captivity (1807) recounts these events, providing both a personal testament to the power of endurance and a crucial primary source on the realities of the early war. What particularly distinguished his account from earlier "captivity narratives" (such as that of Mary Rowlandson) was its focus on politics and patriotism, rather than on religious faith and perseverance. It became a bestseller, helping to galvanize the American spirit against British cruelty, and promoting the cause of his fellow Revolutionaries.
A Narrative of Colonel Ethan Allen's Captivity:
- Google books
- Gutenberg
- Librivox ~3h5m
Extracts:
- "Among the episodes of the Revolutionary War, none is stranger than that of Ethan Allen in England; the event and the man being equally uncommon." (Israel Potter, 22)
- "Aye, stare, stare! Though but last night dragged out of a ship's hold, like a smutty tierce; and this morning out of your littered barracks here, like a murderer; for all that, you may well stare at Ethan Ticonderoga Allen, the unconquered soldier - (Ha! three-times-three for glorious old Vermont, and my Green-Mountain boys! Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!) I am he, I say..." (Israel Potter, 21)
- "You object to my way of taking things, do ye? I fear I shall never please ye. You objected to the way, too, in which I took Ticonderoga, and the way in which I meant to take Montreal. Selah!" (Israel Potter, 21)
- "... it is he—Ethan Allen, the soldier; now, since ladies' eyes visit him, made trebly a captive." (Israel Potter, 21)
- "Brave soldier and stout thinker both; / In this regard, and in degree, / An Ethan Allen, by my troth, / Or Herbert lord of Cherbury, / Dusked over. 'Tis an iron glove, / An armed man in a Druid grove." (Clarel, 4.18)
This meetup is part of the series In the Belly of the Whale.
4 attendees
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