Too much mud on Robbers Roost Roads
Moving the weekend to
Capitol Reef National Park
We are changing location to Capitol Reef Natl Park. Robbers Roost roads are sand and clay and impassable now. See you early morning - well 9:30 AM - Saturday in the Capitol Reef campground. Look for Carl Bush's gray Honda Element. He is going down Friday.
Google Maps says just over 3 hours from GJ
Canyoneering &/or hiking, dirt road mtn biking
- Robbers Roost area -
~ 15 miles north of Hanksville, UT
President's Day 3-day weekend (Friday night?) Saturday - Monday (or as much of it as you want)
Come for one day, 2 days or the whole weekend.
I expect we will have a dozen or so canyoneers for this gathering.
Hikers are equally welcome as there are many hikes near by, others a short drive away that can be accessed from our location.
Canyoneering participation this weekend will be open to those who have done canyons with WSA before, or have been through a 'course''; or, come with an experienced 'mentor' who will be your personal guide.
<<Disclaimer: This event may be rescheduled or may be moved to, oh maybe the Moab area, depending on weather, previous rains or snow melt that might put more water in canyons than we want to wade through in February, make unpaved roads dangerous or unpassable, etc. All this is to say, be flexible and be prepared to change if need be - regardless of what we do, it'll be fun if the weather is anything short of a snow or rain storm.>>
More options abound so this should be a great time for anyone to get out of town into the semi-wilds or wilds of scenic eastern Utah.
Here is a broad general description of the area taken from Tom's Canyoneering web site:
Fuggetaboutit. There ain't any (facilities or services). Fill up on gas in Green River or Hanksville, and carry everything you need, including water. The roads are surprisingly good, though some areas experience blowing soft sand from time to time that makes 4WD useful. Severe washboarding sometimes makes the roads unpleasant, and there are sharp rocks in places that are hard on tires, so be sure your spare is pumped up.
Bad weather and dirt roads don't mix. Rain can make the roads impassable - plan accordingly. It's a long walk to Hanksville.
Cell service can be obtained atop the ridge between the Green River and Dirty Devil River drainages. You're hooking into a tower over in Moab, so if you can see the lights of the Moab airport, you might get service.
Check out the Robber's Roost history at this link.
Here is a partial list of things to do in the Roost area.
Some more beta for technical canyoneers.
Heaps more interesting information on everything about the area on Summit Post web site.
Depart Fruita at 6 AM Saturday to meet in CRNP campground at 9:30 AM Saturday
From Grand Junction figure on 3-3.5 hours drive time. I do not expect a large crowd of people other than our meetup groups from SLC and WSA. However, you never know. I suggest that as soon as you arrive you set up a tent and make sure we claim a consolidated site for all who arrive.
GETTING THERE ON THE ROADS:
Take I-70 11 miles west from Green River, UT. Turn south on UT Hwy. 24. At Hanksville UT Hwy 24 bends west and takes right to the national park. We get on I-70 in Fruita and one left and one right turn later, we are in CRNP.
• Car camping luxuries like 2 sleeping bags, large propane stove and lantern, camp table (all the stuff you would bring on a multi-day river trip except the PFDs and spare oar), luxury tent, Winnebago (optional but desirable)
• Group gear and firewood (propane stove and large pot in the event we cook as a group), coffee pot, dutch oven. Since we will camp at an established campground, all the campground amenities are there - indoor plumbing, picnic tables.
• Hiking gear - trekking poles (optional), sturdy shoes or light hiking boots
• First aid kit (can be small and personal or a group size kit; let us know what you have)
• GPS, binoculars, camera
• Personal hygiene items (paper and plastic bags to carry used paper out)
Canyoneering gear (see list at bottom of page; this is a 'must have' list)
No entry fees unless you opt to do something in Goblin Valley State Park.
RSVP: In your RSVP please mention
• do you want/ plan to be a hiker, canyoneer, biker, etc.
• want to be part of group dinner(s)/ potluck and if so what you want to contribute
• what group gear you have that can be part of a shared kitchen (tables, large stove, etc.)
• each person must be a WSA member to RSVP (no +1 for canyoneering events)
Depending on the crowd/ crew/gang we may try to do some group cooking: coffee and tea water in the A.M., shared dinner or potluck for one or both nights.
Not allowed in the national park.
Doug Van Etten[masked]
Canyons we choose to do this weekend will be dictated by the previous experience and skill of the group who want to canyoneer.
* Canyoneering Gear (all this is required for every person if you are doing any rappeling canyons with WSA):
• Helmet (no helmet = no technical canyons with this group. Bike helmet is OK)
• Climbing/ rappelling harness (only for canyons with rappels)
• Rappelling/ descending device (ATC or Guide ATC preferred; Piranha, ATS. Can be Figure 8 or other)
• 2-4 locking carabiners (some small and some larger.Prefer you have more than 4 lockers); 2 non-locking biners
• 2 4' long 1" webbing slings &/or safety tether of some kind
• Wear old rough texture or knit clothing so if it gets torn up you can just throw it away
• Gloves 2 pair; 1 leather or fake leather for rappelng, 1 pair of otton back sticky rubber finger and palm $6 gloves from Home Depot for all-day use in abrasive canyon sandstone.
• Sturdy low top or mid-height running or approach shoes or very light hiking boots
• Some kind of pack to carry your gear and your load of group gear in (nothing hanging outside the pack; it needs to be compact and easy to get through tight slots)
• Water bottle or hydration bladder and lunch/ snacks
• First aid kit (optional but a small personal 1st aid kit is strongly suggested; or a group kit if that is your preference. Announce before we start the day if you have a group kit.)
• Possibles bag
• add an 8' long 1" webbing sling or 2 of these Assorted lengths of sewn slings may be best
• add a few 18"-36" 5mm accessory cords
• add a few more locking &/or non-locking carabiners
• daisy chain (48 or 60" long; ~$15 at climbing supply shops for safety leash and for dangling pack from waist in narrow slots to get pack out of the way.). Or Chain Reactor, Purcell Prussik
• pain meds if you need anything like Ibuprofen before during or after an outing
• Look over the many canyoneering &/or hiking resources here
• Climb Utah's Canyoneering Primer
• Technical Canyoneering Gear from Climb UT
*** Acknowledgement of Risk ***
There will be a few 'hidden questions' (organizer can see responses but others cannot) for you to answer when you RSVP. Read the one re: A of R and you must type there "I Accept" or you will not be considered a meetup participant for this event.
By RSVPing YES and participating in this activity you acknowledge that you have read the statements below and agree to abide by them while participating in this or any Western Slope Adventurers activity. Only those persons who have read this information and agree to its terms shall be viewed as participants in this or any WSA activity.
Hiking, backpacking, road or mountain biking, water sports, skiing, snowshoeing, climbing, rappelling, canyoneering and other adventure sports are fun, but are not without risk. You are responsible for your own safety and staying within your own comfort limits. All Western Slope Adventurers events are unguided events. By participating in a WSA event, you acknowledge that you have a personal duty and responsibility for your own safety.
Western Slope Adventurers MeetUps are organized to provide a venue for outdoor enthusiasts to meet and have fun while sharing in experiences and adventures.
Neither the WSA MeetUp nor any event organizer assess the personal, technical and/or safety skills of participants; nor do they assess any event location to determine current conditions.
By your participation, you acknowledge that you have a personal duty and responsibility to (a) assess your own skills, honestly and accurately, to determine your suitability as a participant for each event, (b) seek adequate information to assess the difficulty of each event to determine if it is within your fitness and skill level, (c) seek adequate information about the current conditions in each area and the weather to assess potential risks to you by participating, and (d) evaluate other prospective event participants and to use your own judgment to determine their suitability for the event and how their participation may affect you.
All participants are encouraged and expected to:
honestly assess your skills to ensure each activity is within your ability
assess your prospective fellow event participants
accept responsibility for your own safety and comfort
do your share of any teamwork involved
share your ideas for situation assessment before and during an event
speak up if you're having a problem
speak up if you question what's going on or something that is being done, no matter who's doing it
have all of the clothing, equipment and any other special items needed for the activity
inform the event organizer or other designated participant if you are using medication (prescribed or otherwise) or have any medical condition that may affect your full participation in the event
on any biking, canyoneering; or, river event that is class II difficulty or higher, wear a helmet, no exceptions