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Re: [DenverAndBeyondVeganMeetup] New Vegan Grocery Store

From: Kellie
Sent on: Friday, June 15, 2012 1:56 PM
heather i wasnt aiming that towards you and wasnt trying to be argumentative. sorry if it came off that way. :(

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On Jun 15, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Heather Hintz <[address removed]> wrote:

Okay, give them a chance, no problem, do not pre-judge, I  get it.

--- On Fri, 6/15/12, Kellie <[address removed]> wrote:

From: Kellie <[address removed]>
Subject: Re: [DenverAndBeyondVeganMeetup] New Vegan Grocery Store
To: [address removed]
Date: Friday, June 15, 2012, 11:56 AM

i agree that wf is overpriced, tho some of their stuff is organic. im not super tight with my money (i probably should be!), so the prices dont bother me that much... but its understandable that it might bother others. however i think nooch is great cause its not whole foods. it will be fubu (for us by us :) and im sure theyll try to do the best they can with the prices. :) lets give em a  chance. :)

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On Jun 15, 2012, at 11:48 AM, John Taylor Yezeguielian <[address removed]> wrote:

We need to stop making excuses for those who are exploiting us.  Whole Foods, for example.  Can't get a head of lettuce of any kind for under $2.50 or more.  EVERYTHING is more because it's "vegetarian" or "vegan".  It's STILL an APPLE, a head of lettuce... and any government supplements aren't going to these any more or less than to any other grocer who charges a LOT less for produce.  We're being screwed over. "Supply & Demand" as a justification is nothing more than some fabricated excuse, same as they say that's why fuel is so high... but ya never see gas stations with "Out Of Gas" signs, do ya?

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Ann S <[address removed]> wrote:
So true, Sarah!  It's all about supply and demand.  Big companies sell more so they can charge less.

PLUS and more importantly, meat, dairy and eggs are HIGHLY subsidized by our government with our tax dollars, so OF COURSE they can sell everything for much less.  Vegan items, including fruits, veggies, nuts, seeds, beans and grains (the healthy stuff), are not subsidized at all.  While vegan processed foods are not as healthy as those things, they are ok and fun now and then, and are much healthier than their 'animal product containing' vegan substitutes.  If we support them, yes they will grow.  On top of that, we will be healthier in the long run, so we won't have to pay so much for health care.

I see in the future, the possibility of vegans getting a cut on insurance, just as non smokers.

Pay now (for healthier food) or pay later (for health care)!

Support vegan businesses whenever possible!  Two adults, raised 3 kids on a vegan, mostly organic, diet, on 1 lower/middle income.  It's possible and doable. 


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On Jun 15, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Sarah <[address removed]> wrote:

This is my perspective of this all. Yes, vegan specialty items tend to be more expensive and yes they should be cheaper, BUT we can’t expect Walmart prices for high quality items or at least those that support our ethics. I see this as a long term investment. The more we support places like Nooch and others like it, this will help lower the costs over time (because more people will be buying them) and make them more available to a wider group of people. One person will talk about stuff they got from Nooch or the Neat Market and word will spread. If we invest money in places like these, the more of them there will be for our future generations to come. It’s incredibly easy to be cynical about all this and not put our money where our mouths are – to see this as an expense not worth it, in the short term.  The vegan community and beyond is expanding at an incredible rate and having more exclusive vegan shops are needed. Nooch’s founders want it to be a gathering place for the community, a resource for the curious, to have classes and all sorts of stuff to help support our growing community. How cool would it be to have a couple of these around town – not having to ask around and check ingredients every time you shop for something new? Making veganism easier and more accessible (hopefully lowering prices over time) is desperately needed in our small, but strong vegan community J


Thank you all for your comments and I hope a few of you will help them out.






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From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Heather Hintz
Sent: Friday, June 15,[masked]:29 AM
To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [DenverAndBeyondVeganMeetup] New Vegan Grocery Store


Vegan speciality products ARE very expensive and frankly overpriced in most cases.  It is of course, a nice service to vegan community but do they really need to be so expensive?  After seeing how seitan is made and not that expensive to make, mind you. It makes me wonder why prices are so high, Vegan product pricing can turn a semi-poor person seeking to become a vegan, into a poor person who cannot afford it. My opinion of course!

--- On Fri, 6/15/12, John Taylor Yezeguielian <[address removed]> wrote:

From: John Taylor Yezeguielian <[address removed]>
Subject: Re: [DenverAndBeyondVeganMeetup] New Vegan Grocery Store
To: [address removed]
Date: Friday, June 15, 2012, 9:46 AM

Great news!  Now let's see, hope they don't try to rape our wallets because it's "Vegan" (read: Overpriced)

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Sarah <[address removed]> wrote:

Hi everyone,
My father just e-mailed me about an amazing all-vegan grocery store opening in Denver. Here is the link to the story from Denver Hub:
They also (as the article states) have a $100,000 Kickstarter program to help them get off to a good start. <

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