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35+ Pub Quiz 🧠🥃  - Singles only.
35+ Pub Quiz 🧠🥃  - Singles only.
**IMPORTANT: YOU NEED TO BUY A TICKET IN YOUR NOII PROFILE TO GET IN** **Auf Tinder kein Bock mehr, aber für Parship ist es zu früh? We got you!** **Wir organisieren mehrere Real Life Single Events. Jede. Woche.** 💜Lassen wir alle Single Herzen höher schlagen und veranstalten einen legendären noii Event. Vergiss Swipen und Chatten, in diesem Jahr daten wir im echten Leben (we don't make the rules). 🍸Mit bis zu 400 Personen pro Event ist immer viel los. Worst case hast du ein geiles noiices Erlebnis gehabt, best case lernst du jemanden kennen, den du daten möchtest **🌟It's a vibe.** Keine Sorge, das wird kein awkward Single Event mit einem sturen Ablauf. Es ist wie ein normaler Bar-Abend mit deinen Friends, wo du aber ganz easy noch andere Leute kennenlernst. **[HERE MORE INFORMATION](https://date.noii.ch/preview)** **So done with tinder but it’s too early for Parship? We got you!** **We organize several real life single events. Every. Week.** 💜Let's make all single hearts beat faster and organize a legendary noii event. Forget swiping and chatting, this year we're dating in real life (we don't make the rules). 🍸With up to 400 people per event, there is always a lot going on. Worst case scenario: you have a great noiice experience, best case: you meet someone you want to date **🌟It's a vibe.** Don't worry, this won't be an awkward singles event with a stubborn schedule. It's like a normal bar evening with your friends, where you can easily meet other people. **[HERE MORE INFORMATION](https://date.noii.ch/preview)**
Chronicle of a Death Foretold by Gabriel GarcĂ­a MĂĄrquez
Chronicle of a Death Foretold by Gabriel GarcĂ­a MĂĄrquez
Welcome to the first meeting of the 20th Century World Literature Book Club Zurich! For our first book, we’ll be reading *Chronicle of a Death Foretold*, a short, gripping, and beautifully written novel by Colombian author and Nobel Prize winner Gabriel García Márquez. First published in 1981, it tells the story of a killing that everyone knows is coming, yet somehow no one stops. We’ll meet in English for a friendly, open discussion. No academic background is needed — just read the book, bring your thoughts, and join the conversation. This first book has been chosen by the organizer to get the club started. After our book club is actively underway, future reads will be selected through member nominations and voting. Looking forward to meeting fellow readers and kicking things off together in April!
This Thursdays at ROBINS - Comedy Brew! English Stand-Up Comedy Open Mic
This Thursdays at ROBINS - Comedy Brew! English Stand-Up Comedy Open Mic
Come and get you **Comedy Brew**, your fix of English Stand-Up Comedy! We serve a fresh, locally sourced 'menu' of 10 comedians, as organic as your favorite farm-to-table meal, all geared up to make you laugh out loud. **Tickets at:** [https://bit.ly/iyfcb](https://bit.ly/iyfcb) Unleash your laughter at [ROBIN's coffee](https://maps.app.goo.gl/E1e3H9GRDDJaPK8z9), the coziest New York-style coffee bar in the heart of Zürich. **Dare to Make 'Em Laugh? 🎤😂** Ever fantasized about grabbing the mic and cracking some jokes yourself? Well, your dream could come true! Visit [our performer's page](https://inyourfacecomedy.ch/perform/) to find out how you can take the stage and spread laughs like a pro. **See You There! 🎤😂** Come down to ROBIN's, break some bread, share some laughs, and maybe even catch the comedy bug yourself! See you there every Thursday! Powered by IN YOUR FACE Comedy 🌟 [Check Us Out!](https://instragram.com/inyourfacecomedy/) **Tickets at:** [https://eventfrog.ch/comedybrew](https://eventfrog.ch/comedybrew) **Frequently Asked Questions** * ***Is the show really in English?*** Absolutely. Every set is performed in English by a mix of Swiss-based and international comics, so no Swiss-German skills required. * ***What’s a “Comedy Open Mic”?*** It’s the testing ground for jokes. Pros road-test fresh material and brave newcomers grab their first five minutes. Expect some gems, some flops—and the fun of seeing comedy born in real time. * ***Will it be funny?*** Most of the time, yes! An open mic is a roller-coaster: seasoned acts, new voices, and the occasional glorious train-wreck. It’s all part of the charm. * ***Can I perform too?*** Yes - you need to book a spot - find out more about how to do it here: [https://inyourfacecomedy.ch/perform/](https://inyourfacecomedy.ch/perform/). * ***Do I need to buy tickets in advance?*** Please do. We’re usually running around before the show and door sales slow things down. If you’re stuck, we’ll try, but no promises. Link to tickets as at [https://inyourfacecomedy.ch/comedybrew/](https://inyourfacecomedy.ch/comedybrew/) * ***How does seating work?*** First come, first served so grab a drink, snag a seat, and settle in. * ***Is food available at the bar?*** ROBIN’s serves drinks only. For a pre-show bite, try **Restaurant Johanniter** (classic Swiss) or **Holy Cow!** across the street for burgers. * ***Will the comedians pick on me?*** We chat with the crowd for laughs, not humiliation. Friendly banter only - you’re safe. * ***How long is the show?*** Doors open 7:30pm, show starts \~7:50pm with a 15 min break in the middle ending around 10pm. Enough time for the last trams home... * ***Age limit?*** All ages welcome of course 16+ recommended (adult themes, spicy language).
Pub Quiz - Laughs, Drinks & Trivia!
Pub Quiz - Laughs, Drinks & Trivia!
**[⚠️ >>Ticket needed (click here)<<](https://eventfrog.ch/en/p/eating-drinking/pub-quiz-laughs-drinks-trivia-7438249258610870649.html) or** **[www.social-circle.ch](www.social-circle.ch)** 🎉 **Pub Quiz Night** 🎉 Join us for a night full of **mind-bending questions**, **unexpected twists**, and **more laughs than right answers** (probably). Whether you're a trivia wizard or just really good at pretending you know stuff, this night’s for you! Join our whatsapp group for updates on this event: [https://chat.whatsapp.com/FY1WpeStk5x8WyIXQ5hl66](https://chat.whatsapp.com/FY1WpeStk5x8WyIXQ5hl66) 📍 **Location:** BOHO 💰 **Price:** 15.- (includes tasty snacks + a prize for the winning team 🍾) 👥 **How Teams Work:** 🔹 Got a crew? Awesome, bring your squad and show us what you've got! 🔹 Looking to mingle with singles? We’ve got you! → Think 2 girls + 2 guys = the perfect cocktail of brainpower and awkward icebreakers 🔹 Not single? No problem! We’ll still team you up with some brilliant minds and maybe a few terrible guessers for balance 🏆 **What’s in it for you?** Glory, bragging rights, and the sweet, sweet taste of Prosecco-fueled victory. 💬 **Come for the trivia, stay for the chaos.** Spots are limited, so grab your seat before your smarter friend does! 🎟️ ​P.S. Pictures might be taken during the event, if you do not want it please let the organizer know. Tickets are non-refundable. **Want more events like this? Join our WhatsApp community:** [https://chat.whatsapp.com/KWSK2jINyuG9uHHjtxfnmP?mode=gi_t](https://chat.whatsapp.com/KWSK2jINyuG9uHHjtxfnmP?mode=gi_t)
Ceramics & Drinks🧑🏼‍🎨🍸 - Singles only.
Ceramics & Drinks🧑🏼‍🎨🍸 - Singles only.
**IMPORTANT: YOU NEED TO BUY A TICKET IN YOUR NOII PROFILE TO GET IN** **Auf Tinder kein Bock mehr, aber für Parship ist es zu früh? We got you!** **Wir organisieren mehrere Real Life Single Events. Jede. Woche.** 💜Lassen wir alle Single Herzen höher schlagen und veranstalten einen legendären noii Event. Vergiss Swipen und Chatten, in diesem Jahr daten wir im echten Leben (we don't make the rules). 🍸Mit bis zu 400 Personen pro Event ist immer viel los. Worst case hast du ein geiles noiices Erlebnis gehabt, best case lernst du jemanden kennen, den du daten möchtest **🌟It's a vibe.** Keine Sorge, das wird kein awkward Single Event mit einem sturen Ablauf. Es ist wie ein normaler Bar-Abend mit deinen Friends, wo du aber ganz easy noch andere Leute kennenlernst. **[HERE MORE INFORMATION](https://date.noii.ch/preview)** **So done with tinder but it’s too early for Parship? We got you!** **We organize several real life single events. Every. Week.** 💜Let's make all single hearts beat faster and organize a legendary noii event. Forget swiping and chatting, this year we're dating in real life (we don't make the rules). 🍸With up to 400 people per event, there is always a lot going on. Worst case scenario: you have a great noiice experience, best case: you meet someone you want to date **🌟It's a vibe.** Don't worry, this won't be an awkward singles event with a stubborn schedule. It's like a normal bar evening with your friends, where you can easily meet other people. **[HERE MORE INFORMATION](https://date.noii.ch/preview)**
Me time in gemütlicher Runde. Gemeinsames malen im Atelier 🎨
Me time in gemütlicher Runde. Gemeinsames malen im Atelier 🎨
Gemütliches kennen lernen mit anschliessendem malen. 🤗
Neurodivergent friendly board game night
Neurodivergent friendly board game night

English Writing Skills Events This Week

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📜Medieval Experience✨Watercolor🖌️Golden Leaf✒️Gothic Calligraphy
📜Medieval Experience✨Watercolor🖌️Golden Leaf✒️Gothic Calligraphy
**IMAGINE THIS** **Intense black ink staining the paper and you read: CREATIO** This word refers to the act of bringing something into existence. **To create!!** 📜 No experience needed. 📜 Relaxed & friendly atmosphere. 📜 Perfect to meet creative people in Zurich. ✒️ **That is WHAT WE DO** You’ll create your unique composition using: **WATERCOLORS, GOTHIC CALLIGRAPHY and GOLDEN LEAF.** We explore the rich world of ILLUMINATED MANUSCRIPTS (medieval Christian books from 1300–1500 AD). These books were decorated with symbolic motifs showing mainly FLOWERS, ANIMALS and GROTESQUES or HYBRID CREATURES. Usually written in Latin contained prayers, astrological signs, calendar and descriptive scenes. ✒️ **WHAT IS INCLUDED?** ► **Tutoring:** This is a longer session than usual. **3,5 hours** learning with me and solving your doubts. ► **Good quality** **material**: Watercolor paper **300mg/m2 (cellulose and 100 % cotton),** **special quills for gothic style,** **ink (red, blue and black)**, watercolors, golden leaf, brushes, pencil, eraser. ► **Instructions** I created for you as a summary. Don't worry about taking notes! ✒️ **WHAT ELSE IS INCLUDED?** ► **Appetizer**: Cheese, sweet tomatoes and Zopf bread. ✒️ **EXTRA** ► **Medieval carefully selected music.** It creates a calm atmosphere with harmonious frequencies helping the mind to deeper concentration during the creative process. ✒️ **FREE GIFT** ► **Seeds:** Sweet violet and calendula that I grow myself. **ALL LEVELS** **Beginner?** I always teach the art medium basics and give extra personalized support. **Advance?** Start to paint in your rhythm and skip explanations. **WHERE?** In the beautiful GZ Schindlergut in Zurich. **I SPEAK** English, Spanish and German (intermediate level). **Hi! I am Marga and I am here to help you to improve your life.** Let me take care of everything. Good material, relaxing atmosphere, clear organization and kind support. **ABOUT ME: [Marga Crea Arte](https://www.instagram.com/margacrea_art)** (Youtube/Instagram/Facebook/TikTok).
Walk and Talk – and Coffee
Walk and Talk – and Coffee
Abonniere meinen [Whatsapp-Kanal](https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029Vb72OOCEKyZ9YmR6Xq2u) für regelmässige Tipps rund ums Schweizerdeutsch. **Lust auf Bewegung an der frischen Luft und dabei locker (Schweizerdeutsch) plaudern?** 🚶💬 Dann komm zum Walk and Talk! **So funktioniert’s:** **Wir treffen uns am Treffpunkt Zürich HB und gehen gemeinsam los** **Damit wir uns finden halten wir ein Plüschtier auffällig in der Hand.**** Jede und jeder bringt sich ein – Gesprächsthemen entstehen unterwegs von selbst Im Anschluss können wir, wer Lust hat, noch gemeinsam irgendwo einen Kaffee trinken ☕ **Der Organisator ist nicht zwingend jedes Mal dabei – die Idee ist, dass das Treffen auch selbstorganisiert funktioniert** Hinweise: Bequeme Schuhe & wettergerechte Kleidung Findet bei (fast) jedem Wetter statt Wasser/Getränk nach Bedarf mitnehmen Jede und jeder darf gerne Freunde mitbringen
Afterwork Drinks🍸💘  - Singles only.
Afterwork Drinks🍸💘  - Singles only.
**IMPORTANT: YOU NEED TO BUY A TICKET IN YOUR NOII PROFILE TO GET IN** **Auf Tinder kein Bock mehr, aber für Parship ist es zu früh? We got you!** **Wir organisieren mehrere Real Life Single Events. Jede. Woche.** 💜Lassen wir alle Single Herzen höher schlagen und veranstalten einen legendären noii Event. Vergiss Swipen und Chatten, in diesem Jahr daten wir im echten Leben (we don't make the rules). 🍸Mit bis zu 400 Personen pro Event ist immer viel los. Worst case hast du ein geiles noiices Erlebnis gehabt, best case lernst du jemanden kennen, den du daten möchtest **🌟It's a vibe.** Keine Sorge, das wird kein awkward Single Event mit einem sturen Ablauf. Es ist wie ein normaler Bar-Abend mit deinen Friends, wo du aber ganz easy noch andere Leute kennenlernst. **[HERE MORE INFORMATION](https://date.noii.ch/preview)** **So done with tinder but it’s too early for Parship? We got you!** **We organize several real life single events. Every. Week.** 💜Let's make all single hearts beat faster and organize a legendary noii event. Forget swiping and chatting, this year we're dating in real life (we don't make the rules). 🍸With up to 400 people per event, there is always a lot going on. Worst case scenario: you have a great noiice experience, best case: you meet someone you want to date **🌟It's a vibe.** Don't worry, this won't be an awkward singles event with a stubborn schedule. It's like a normal bar evening with your friends, where you can easily meet other people. **[HERE MORE INFORMATION](https://date.noii.ch/preview)**
PM Session - Open Level Play
PM Session - Open Level Play
Welcome to the Open Level Play Session. This session takes place every Saturday from 12:15 to 13:45 at the Yonex Badminton Hall HardbrĂźcke. The number of players on the waitlist one week in advance determines the number of courts booked. If you are on the waitlist but can no longer attend, please remove yourself as early as possible. Open to players of all skill levels. This session is for doubles with a relaxed and social focus. Ideal for casual play, improvement and meeting new players. Payment can be made via TWINT after the session.
AM Session - Competitive Play
AM Session - Competitive Play
Welcome to the Competitive Play Session. This session takes place every Saturday from 10:45 to 12:15 at the Yonex Badminton Hall HardbrĂźcke. The number of players on the waitlist one week in advance determines the number of courts booked. If you are on the waitlist but can no longer attend, please remove yourself as early as possible. Players are accepted into the session based on skill suitability. This session is for experienced players looking for quality games. Play is focused on doubles with a competitive mindset and consistent rallies. You should be comfortable smashing, return smashes and keeping up a moderate tempo throughout the session. New players and those who are new to badminton are welcome to join the PM Session (Open Level Play). Payment can be made via TWINT after the session.
 Language Exchange & ApĂŠro
Language Exchange & ApĂŠro
🎟️ [Get your ticket here](https://eventfrog.ch/de/p/essen-trinken/language-exchange-apero-7440770831246977379.html) 🎟️ **Maybe the best way to practice a language: some food, a drink, and a relaxed group setting.** **How it works:** Check in with our hosts. Grab a drink at the bar and join the group of people speaking a language you want to practice. Follow our topic cards or talk about your interests. **Location:** Sphères, 8005 Zurich (winter garden) **Entry:** CHF 10,– (snacks included in the ticket price ☺️) **Tickets:** Get your ticket on [eventfrog.ch](https://eventfrog.ch/de/p/essen-trinken/language-exchange-apero-7440770831246977379.html) Your hosts will be Joël and Linda.
AM Session - Open Level Play
AM Session - Open Level Play
Welcome to the Open Level Play Session. This session takes place every Saturday from 10:45 to 12:15 at the Yonex Badminton Hall HardbrĂźcke. The number of players on the waitlist one week in advance determines the number of courts booked. If you are on the waitlist but can no longer attend, please remove yourself as early as possible. Open to players of all skill levels. This session is for doubles with a relaxed and social focus. Ideal for casual play, improvement and meeting new players. Payment can be made via TWINT after the session.

English Writing Skills Events Near You

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Shut Up & Write! Kingsdale Shopping Center
Shut Up & Write! Kingsdale Shopping Center
Greetings writers! Come down and join your fellow wordsmiths for one hour of uninterrupted writing time in the upper level of the Market District Supermarket in Upper Arlington. The main entrance of the shopping center opens onto stairs/elevator leading up to the 2nd floor cafe section where we will have a table displaying a sign with the Shut Up & Write logo. Writing is largely a solitary craft. Practicing with others in a community setting may be the thing you need to fire your own routine. We’ll meet on Wednesday evenings, starting the clock at 6:30, following a brief period of introductions. This is solid writing time and all inclusive. Any project is acceptable, be it fiction, non -fiction, work or homework assignment. All is welcome and will remain private to you. The market boasts a Starbucks, a full service bar and various affordable food options. Parking is plentiful, free Wifi is provided as well as outlets for charging your devices, though they are somewhat limited, so plan accordingly. Show up as early as you like, or stay late. This group tends to socialize some, both before and after the alloted time, but this is not mandatory to you. Feel free to come and go as you please and late arrivals are welcome. The cafe may be noisy on occasion so headphones/ earbuds are reccommended as you see fit. Please try to RSVP if possible so that we may grab enough seats for all—the venue can be busy at times. Feel free to message me privately wth any questions and/ or concerns you may have. Happy writing!
Conversation and Coffee @ Belle's Bread Bakery
Conversation and Coffee @ Belle's Bread Bakery
Hey Everyone! Let's meet at Belle's Bread Bakery and Cafe. There is lots of free parking and easy access to the cafe and many shops and restaurants as well. This is a great way to meet new and old friends while chatting about life and practicing English language speaking skills. All are welcome and encouraged to join us anytime between 11am and 1pm. Looking forward to seeing you soon.
Shut Up & Write!™ Easton Town Center
Shut Up & Write!™ Easton Town Center
We'll meet at The Capital One Café, 167 Easton Town Center, Space A-103. This is in the main mall where the Microsoft store used to be, on your left if you're standing at the bottom of the AMC Theater escalator. Join us on Saturday for an hour of uninterrupted wordmaking! • What we'll do Join us for an hour of writing! We’ve discovered that it’s strikingly helpful to write with other writers. See if it’s true for you at 10AM on Saturday mornings. Be it a book, blog, script, essay, dissertation, resume, melody, poem or just plain work stuff, you are invited to write it with us. No one will see what you've written or give you unsolicited advice. Instead of just thinking about writing, come and get some real writing done. SCHEDULE: 10:00 - SESSION 1: quick intros. 10:10 - timer starts: write for 1 hour. 11:10 - chat / take off / keep writing. OPTIONAL SOCIALIZING happens at 11A-11:30ish. Writing is very solitary. Connecting (and sometimes even commiserating) with other writers is a cool thing. BEING LATE IS OKAY: just show up and get settled, then check-in with me after the session. (I’ll be the person with the Shut Up & Write! sign.) If you were on time, please be willing to make room for the friendly latecomer. Happy writing and I look forward to seeing you! • What to bring Whatever you need to be able to write! Bring earbuds/earplugs if you want to block noise or the occasional conversation by other patrons. Electrical outlets are limited, so charge your devices before whenever possible. See you at The Café on Saturday!
Shut Up & Write!™ Easton Town Center
Shut Up & Write!™ Easton Town Center
We'll meet at The Capital One Café, 167 Easton Town Center, Space A-103. This is in the main mall where the Microsoft store used to be, on your left if you're standing at the bottom of the AMC Theater escalator. Join us on Saturday for an hour of uninterrupted wordmaking! • What we'll do Join us for an hour of writing! We’ve discovered that it’s strikingly helpful to write with other writers. See if it’s true for you at 10AM on Saturday mornings. Be it a book, blog, script, essay, dissertation, resume, melody, poem or just plain work stuff, you are invited to write it with us. No one will see what you've written or give you unsolicited advice. Instead of just thinking about writing, come and get some real writing done. SCHEDULE: 10:00 - SESSION 1: quick intros. 10:10 - timer starts: write for 1 hour. 11:10 - chat / take off / keep writing. OPTIONAL SOCIALIZING happens at 11A-11:30ish. Writing is very solitary. Connecting (and sometimes even commiserating) with other writers is a cool thing. BEING LATE IS OKAY: just show up and get settled, then check-in with me after the session. (I’ll be the person with the Shut Up & Write! sign.) If you were on time, please be willing to make room for the friendly latecomer. Happy writing and I look forward to seeing you! • What to bring Whatever you need to be able to write! Bring earbuds/earplugs if you want to block noise or the occasional conversation by other patrons. Electrical outlets are limited, so charge your devices before whenever possible. See you at The Café on Saturday!
Saturday Mornings @ East Market
Saturday Mornings @ East Market
Let's grab some coffee/food and share a morning chat! The East Market has an ample parking lot and outdoor and indoor seating. Grab a cup of coffee from Winston's Coffee & Waffles or on your way to East Market and meet us on the second floor - table behind or east of the elevator. Per what this group is about: "Everyone is welcome! International transplants to Columbus who want to improve language skills, Columbus residents who want to discuss international travel and culture, and anyone who enjoys getting together for good conversations."
Pop-up Book Club 3: The Ballad of The Sad CafĂŠ, by Carson McCullers
Pop-up Book Club 3: The Ballad of The Sad CafĂŠ, by Carson McCullers
Let’s meet and share our thoughts about Carson McCullers’ novella, The Ballad of The Sad Café.
Duty vs. Results: What Makes an Action Moral?
Duty vs. Results: What Makes an Action Moral?
When judging morality, should we prioritize **intentions/duty** or **outcomes/results**? It introduces two influential philosophers as representatives of these approaches. * **Immanuel Kant (deontology):** An action is moral when it is done from **duty** and follows rational, universal principles (the **categorical imperative**). Certain acts—like lying—are wrong regardless of the consequences; you can’t do a wrong thing for a right reason. * **John Stuart Mill (utilitarian consequentialism):** The morality of an action is determined by its **effects**, specifically how much **happiness/well-being** it produces. Mill argues that some pleasures are “higher” than others, and that good intentions don’t redeem harmful outcomes. ## Discussion Questions 1. **The lying dilemma:** A murderer comes to your door and asks if your friend is hiding inside. Kant would say you must not lie. 2. **Can good intentions rescue a bad outcome?** 3. **The organ harvest problem:** A surgeon has five patients dying of organ failure and one healthy patient in for a checkup. Killing the one to harvest organs would save five lives, and the math works out for the utilitarian. Why does this feel so deeply wrong? Is that feeling a point in Kant's favor, or just a bias we should overcome? 4. **Do rules need exceptions?** Kant insists moral rules must be universal, with no exceptions. But most of us can imagine extreme scenarios where any rule seems like it should bend. Does the need for exceptions fatally undermine deontology, or is the strength of the system precisely that it refuses to bend? 5. **Who gets to calculate the consequences?** Utilitarianism asks us to maximize good outcomes, but we're notoriously bad at predicting consequences. If we can't reliably know the results of our actions, is it practical to base our entire moral system on outcomes? Does this uncertainty push us back toward rules and principles? 6. **Everyday morality:** Think about a real moral decision you've made recently, even a small one. Did you reason more like a Kantian (what's the right thing to do in principle?) or more like a utilitarian (what will produce the best result?)? Do most people naturally lean one way? 7. **Justice vs. the greater good:** A town can prevent a deadly plague by sacrificing one innocent person. The greater good is clearly served. But is it just? Can an action be morally right and deeply unjust at the same time? 8. **The big synthesis question:** Are these two systems actually opposed, or do they often arrive at the same answers by different paths? Is it possible that we need both: rules to guide us in the moment and consequences to evaluate systems and policies over time?