Project Management

Ready to captivate any audience, nail your next presentation, or give feedback that people actually enjoy hearing? Then come check out **First Berlin Toastmasters**, Berlin's oldest public speaking club. We're a warm, supportive, and international community here to learn, practice, and grow together. Our meetings are full of laughter, and every voice adds something special. The stage is a safe space, so come by, listen, and see how much fun communication can be. Please, be our guest! The most important people in the room aren't the speakers, they're the audience. Your presence, energy, and reactions are what bring the evening to life. **When** 🗓️ Every **1st & 3rd Wednesday** of the month 🕒 Doors open at **6:30 PM** \- Event starts at **6:45 PM** sharp **Where** St. Lukas-Kirche (near Anhalter Bahnhof) Bernburger Straße 4-5 10963 Berlin 📍 [https://goo.gl/maps/AhDfDmVndqbC9A1C9](https://goo.gl/maps/AhDfDmVndqbC9A1C9) You’ll find us in the **Gemeindesaal** on the first floor of the building to the right of the church. We look forward to welcoming you! Best wishes, John aka Yevgen Schweden - VP Public Relations Important note: We take pictures and clips during our meetings for promotional use only. By attending our meetings, you agree to that by default. If you don´t want to be on any picture, please let the VP PR or another representative from the board know (for example the president.)

**This is 100% non-profit. The 15€ sign up fee for everyone is only to minimize last-minute cancellations. The total sum goes to a bar-tap that everyone can use to order drinks until the amount is used up. ‼️NO REFUNDS‼️** **‼️Please don't just show up without RSVPing here and paying the 15€. We have a separate room that has limited capacity and a specific drinks agreement with the bar - so splitting up the bill won't become a mess.‼️** **Small update on how your money get's used from May 2024 onwards:** As of this month, meetup.com has started charging me 34€ instead of 16€ per month. I've decided to distribute this fee evenly among all us participants every month. Example: In the last 12 meetups, the average number of attendees was 17. With 17 attendees I would effectively collect 230€ (after fees). I would now substract 34€ leaving us with 196€ that go to the bar. 15% get's tipped to the wait staff, in this case 30€, leaving us with 166€ effectively to order drinks. Hope everyone is cool with this system. :) Website: https://www.pberg-engineers.me WhatsApp groups: Please come and join us on WhatsApp! \- "PBerg Engineers \- NEWS" \- Only organizers can post announcements or polls \-\> https://chat\.whatsapp\.com/EqMJMmlCZO6LOOfAoG4yTj \- "PBerg Engineers \- DISCUSS" \- Everyone can post \-\> https://chat\.whatsapp\.com/LPuo76J83gF6IZMLUcM4u2 Please join those groups now if you're interested. :) All skill/education-levels welcome! :) Lightning Talks: \- TBD We'll also have a brief "Jobs: Lost & Found section". **Location:** From the street you will have to enter the right hand Cafe Chagall (yes, there are 2). Then, you go upstairs and our private room is in the far end corner of the building. We are a relaxed, non-formal meetup of like-minded software engineers who want to always keep learning and want to meet in physical reality over a drink or two. Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin is home to some of the most talented software engineers in the world, and every month, they come together for an exciting knowledge sharing meetup. This meetup is a chance for attendees to learn from each other, share their experiences, and gain new insights into the world of software engineering. The atmosphere is friendly and welcoming, and the discussions are always engaging and thought-provoking. Whether you're a seasoned veteran or just starting out in your career, you'll find something valuable at this meetup. Don't miss out on your chance to connect with like-minded professionals and advance your knowledge of software engineering. Sign up for the next event now! **Website:** https://www.pberg-engineers.me **WhatsApp groups:** Please come and join us on WhatsApp! \- "PBerg Engineers \- NEWS" \- Only organizers can post announcements or polls \-\> [https://chat.whatsapp.com/EqMJMmlCZO6LOOfAoG4yTj](https://chat.whatsapp.com/EqMJMmlCZO6LOOfAoG4yTj) \- "PBerg Engineers \- DISCUSS" \- Everyone can post \-\> [https://chat.whatsapp.com/LPuo76J83gF6IZMLUcM4u2](https://chat.whatsapp.com/LPuo76J83gF6IZMLUcM4u2) Please join those groups now if you're interested. :)

**⚠️ IMPORTANT: REGISTRATION MANDATORY ⚠️** Registration on **Luma** is **REQUIRED** to attend this event. **Link: https://luma.com/7zfk3orp?utm_source=meetup** Your registration is subject to host approval. You must complete the registration process on lu.ma to receive the full event location details and confirmation of your attendance. **Please note: Without approved registration on Luma, you will NOT be able to access the event location or attend.** We are excited to host a **BLISS x juna.ai workshop** featuring **Dr. Nima Siboni (senior RL Engineer)**, who will guide us through an interactive session on algorithm discovery with LLMs. **​​​ Title: The Heuristic Scientist: Open-Ended Algorithm Discovery with LLMs** **📅 Date: 03.06.2026** **🕕 Time: 18:00** 📍 Location: TU Berlin Marchstrasse 23 [Room 0.011] ​​​The session will last around 2 hours, followed by a networking session with juna.ai and fellow AI enthusiasts (and free pizza!🍕). Bring your laptop! **​Abstract:** Large language models are increasingly useful not only for writing code, but for exploring the space of possible algorithms. In this hands-on workshop, we will look at how LLMs can act as “heuristic scientists”: generating candidate strategies, turning ideas into executable code, testing them against concrete objectives, and refining them through feedback. The workshop centers on the general discovery loop behind LLM-assisted heuristic generation. Participants will learn how to structure problems for algorithm discovery, prompt models to propose interpretable heuristics, evaluate those heuristics with simulations or benchmarks, and use the results to guide further search. We will also discuss when simple prompting is enough, when training or fine-tuning may help, and how to keep generated heuristics understandable, testable, and auditable. ​By the end of the session, participants will have built a small discovery loop of their own and will understand the practical trade-offs involved in using LLMs for open-ended algorithm discovery: creativity versus control, exploration versus verification, and automation versus human judgment. ​ **⚡ FINAL REMINDER ⚡** **You MUST register and be approved on Luma to attend. The event location will only be visible after your registration is confirmed by the host. Link: https://luma.com/7zfk3orp?utm_source=meetup** *** We are **BLISS e.V.**, Berlin’s AI community connecting like-minded individuals passionate about machine learning and data science. Our **BLISS Workshops** connect **students and young professionals with industry partners**, offering an inside look into **how machine learning is applied in real-world settings** \- from research and development to deployment\. ​ ​​​BLISS Website:[ https://bliss.berlin](https://bliss.berlin/?utm_source=luma) ​​​BLISS Youtube:[ https://www.youtube.com/@bliss.ev.berlin](https://www.youtube.com/@bliss.ev.berlin?utm_source=luma)

Dieser besondere Deutschkurs ist für alle, die mit Spiel und Spaß ihr Deutsch verbessern wollen. Wir sind eine kleine Gruppe (max. 15 Personen) von Deutschlernern zwischen A2 - B2 und machen Theater-Improvisation auf Deutsch. Aber keine Angst - das kann jede/jeder lernen! Der Fokus liegt vorallem auf Sprechen und Verstehen, so daß du in Alltagssituationen spontaner reagieren kannst und mit dem Sprechen auf Deutsch flüssiger wirst. Ich bin sowohl Deutschdozentin als auch Theaterschauspielerin und entwickle diese Methode seit mehr als 10 Jahren. Der Kurs ist immer mittwochs und du bist herzlich willkommen, vorbeizukommen und uns kennenzulernen. Das 1. Mal kostet der Kurs 12 Euro zum Kennenlernen. Ein 10er Ticket kostet 160 Euro. Ein 5er Ticket 95 Euro und der Drop-in-Preis ist 20 Euro. Ich freue mich auf Euch. Bei Fragen kannst du mich gerne kontaktieren. liebe Grüße Nina

**Weiter geht es mit dem Erfolgsnetzwerk** Wie angekündigt, geht es im 14-tägigen Rhythmus weiter. **Ablauf:** ***Bist du zum ersten Mal dabei?*** Dann sind wir gespannt, in der ersten Runde von deinem Projekt oder Vorhaben sowie deinem Hintergrund zu erfahren. Auch mögliche Hindernisse dürfen genannt werden. ***Teilnehmende, die schon einmal dabei waren,*** berichten von ihren Erfolgen und auch den Schwierigkeiten, die sie seit unserer letzten Zusammenkunft erlebt haben. Im Anschluss sprechen wir in der Gruppe über jedes einzelne Projekt, stellen Fragen und geben Feedback. ***Die dritte Runde gilt dem nächsten Schritt:*** Ihr überlegt euch konkret, was ihr bis zum nächsten Treffen erledigen wollt, um eurem Ziel ein Stückchen näher zu kommen. Das Erfolgsnetzwerk ist ein offenes Format für alle, die vor einem beruflichen oder privaten Projekt stehen und durch Austausch und Feedback ihre nächsten Schritte klarer sehen und umsetzen wollen. Ich freue mich darauf, euch beim nächsten Treffen zu begrüßen. Und da aller guten Dinge 3 sind, diesmal noch einmal kostenlos 😉

Practice Spanish & German, meet new people, and have a great time! 📅 Twice a month – Wednesday 19:00 📍BrewDog Mitte Practica español y alemán, conoce gente nueva y pásalo bien. 📅 Dos veces al mes – Miercoles, 19:00 📍 BrewDog Mitte Join us for another exciting Tandem event where language enthusiasts, both Spanish and German speakers, come together for a fun and interactive language exchange. Whether you are looking to practice your German, improve your Spanish, or simply meet new like-minded individuals, this event is the perfect opportunity for you. Don't miss out on this chance to broaden your language skills, make new friends, and immerse yourself in a diverse and welcoming community.

Deadline Table — Focused Work Hours Bring your manuscript, your taxes, your laptop—whatever needs to get done. We have WiFi and phone sockets. You’ll sit on bar stools at the counter (not comfortable, by design). Two hours to focus hard. We’ll keep you accountable so you actually finish. Choose your intensity level: Level 1 — Light Touch: We check in once at the start, once at the end. You’re on your own. Level 2 — Mild: We check every 15 minutes. Gentle nudges if you drift. Level 3 — Strict: We’re watching. Phone down? We see it. Daydreaming? We call it out. Sign on your table says: “Stop procrastinating.” Two hours for €7.50 minimum order. If you need more time, it’s €3.20/hour after. Five seats, first come first served. No distractions. No bullshit. Just work that gets done. 100% plant-based. Inspired by Tokyo manuscript cafés. Hours: Wed–Thu: 1 PM–10 PM Fri: 4 PM–10 PM Sat–Sun: 12 PM–10 PM Closed Mon–Tue

**This event is taking place online.** You have probably tried AI. Maybe you use it quietly. Maybe you opened it, stared at the blank prompt, and closed the tab. Maybe you are not sure where to start, or why it still feels harder than it should. Welcome to our community! 17:00 — An intro: Why are we here? 17:15 — What research and data shows us about how AI impacts work 17:30 — Where are you right now, what have you tried, what is in your way? 17:45 — What comes next: shaping the next session together This is the first meetup in a series. We will learn from each other, explore AI at work, and eventually dive into the tools together — because the best way to loosen the fear is to do it in good company. Facilitator: Anca Trif Language: English Capacity: 10 attendees **Join here:** [https://meet.google.com/ghd-cuvt-jnh](https://meet.google.com/ghd-cuvt-jnh)

We invite you to our [Digitale Leute Meetup in Berlin powered by SAP](https://www.eventbrite.de/e/dl-meetup-12-powered-by-sap-berlin-tickets-1987405580591?aff=oddtdtcreator). Look forward to inspiring talks and Q&A sessions. Get your free ticket [here](https://www.eventbrite.de/e/dl-meetup-12-powered-by-sap-berlin-tickets-1987405580591?aff=oddtdtcreator) *** The Digitale Leute Meetup is an event series organized by *Digitale Leute*. **Invitation** We invite you to join us for our second meetup this year on June 4th at SAP in Berlin! We just celebrated the successful restart of our event series in Cologne with over 100 participants, and we cannot wait to dive deep into the Berlin product builders community. Look forward to leading professionals from product, engineering, and UX/design, sharing their best practices and discussing trends and topics with you the community. We are still early in our planning, but expect the first speaker announcements soon. Join us for an evening of networking, fueled by drinks and bites – just bring your ideas and your colleagues! **Schedule** 06:30 PM - Doors open 07:00 PM - Welcome by Christoph Bresler, Founder of Digitale Leute School 07:05 PM - Welcome by SAP & Moderation by Thomas Riedel 07:10 PM - DL Interview: **Mareike Dorra**, Head of Product Management Bootcamps at Digitale Leute School (ex-Zalando) will interview **Jan Hegewald**, VP Engineering at Rabot Energy (ex-SumUp, -Zalando, -Idealo) about the rise of Product Engineering. AI is changing how software is built. In this conversation, Mareike Dorra and Jan Hegewald explore why the focus is shifting from software development to product development—and how engineers, through product thinking, new tools, and closer collaboration with product managers, are evolving into “product engineers.” 07:40 PM - Questions & Answers 08:00 PM - Networking 08:55 PM - Wrap up of the meetup **Good to know** In addition to our meetup, we bring together over 1,000 product builders in Cologne every November at our international software product development conference, the Digitale Leute Summit. Speakers in 2026 include representatives from Atlassian, Google DeepMind, Zendesk, sevdesk, and many more. You can find more information here: [Digitale Leute Summit 2026](https://www.digitale-leute.de/summit/26/ "https://www.digitale-leute.de/summit/26/") **About Digitale Leute** Digitale Leute has always been about one thing: bringing together the people who shape digital products. The thinkers, the builders, the ones who care deeply about how technology is made and why it matters. Over the years, our community has grown – but we’ve missed the magic that only happens when you’re in the same room, sharing ideas, swapping stories, and sparking conversations that no Slack channel can replicate. So we decided: it’s time to bring our meetups back. **About SAP in Berlin** Located in the heart of European innovation, [SAP in Berlin](https://www.sap.com/germany/about/berlin.html "https://www.sap.com/germany/about/berlin.html") combines the power of a global company with the strength of a unique local ecosystem – we attract talent, shape SAP‘s image as a front-runner of innovation, and foster our position as market leader for enterprise application software in Berlin. Our location in Berlin offers a perfect meeting point for innovators and decision makers, while we stay on top of software trends and technologies to define their value for business and society.

Hi Everyone, we are very excited to announce our first 2026 OpenSearch Project Berlin meetup on **Friday June 5th** **Agenda** **6:30pm Start** (Drinks and snacks will be provided) **6:45pm Intro by Kris Freedain** **7:15pm Break** (Drinks and Snacks) **7:35pm Nils Bandener** \- Non\-Obvious Things to Know When Coding in OpenSearch **7:55pm** **Alexander Malandin** \- The Benchmark Game: Challenging Lucene on Its Own Terms **8:30pm Networking** **9:00pm Close.**

Hello! We are organising a coworking + socialising session for all of us who are working on projects (e.g. our own creations, freelance or remote work) but don't feel like sitting alone at home. 🙂 🌟 This week's special: Get your chores done! Fill out those Finanzamt forms, setup your broker accounts or finally get dental insurance. Any other work is welcome too, of course 😉 To ensure that we have time for both socialising AND working, we will be using the so-called “Pomodoro” technique: **50 mins deep work** (silent), followed by **10 mins break** to socialise. And then repeat! You are welcome to join whatever your personal background is, and whatever project you are working on. I (the host) speak English and German, so either language is fine. ——————————————————- AGENDA: * **Short Intro** Tell us who you are and share something about what you will be working on today * **Pomodoro Session** \- 3x \(3h\) Each Pomodoro session consists of 50 mins focused “deep work” (no talking, no interruptions, **phones on silent mode**) -> then 10 mins break: a chance to share your progress with others -> Repeat * **15 mins Wrap Up** Celebrate what you achieved and get to know others 😊 ———— Wifi + power plugs are available - but best to bring a fully charged laptop, just in case 🙃 You **do not** have to pay anything. But since we are using the café space, it is common courtesy to buy at least one drink (coffee costs roughly **4 Euros**).

Welcome to Sunday Tech Coffee. This is a **networking** event for those in the tech industry in Berlin. We are usually inside and to the right. Ask the barista/bartender if you can't find us.

Network and get inspired with Entrepreneurs from diverse backgrounds every first Friday of the month (except January). Agenda: Boardingtime: 18:00 -18:30 I) Intro-Round: Everybody 1-2 minutes + business of the month: Smart Coop Germany with Magdalena Ziomek Pause II) Main Topic with Jarun Jain* Pause III) Final-Round * AI has changed the rules. You don’t need months of work and a team to deploy a product. With the right tools and approach you can move from idea to live product faster than ever. In this hands-on session Varun Jain will walk you through this exact workflow using modern ai-tools. What we will cover: * Define your business idea * Structure the project * Write promts for vibe coding platforms * Develope the product * Deploy the Product * Tools to build and grow Tools we will use: ChatGTP, OpenAI API, Gemini API, Codex, Gemini Antigravity, VS-Code and GitHub Copilot. If you have an idea you want to turn into a product, this event is for your. No technical skills are required. Important notice: please bring your laptop! **** About Varun Jain: Varun is a product builder with 15 years of experience across startups in multiple countries. He is open to collaborations in consulting, mentoring and community events. About Business of the month in June: Smart Coop is a model, where 1.300 freelancers and remote workers from 50 different countries are keeping their freedom and independance while having the benefits of beeing employed in Germany. **** Event is free if charge! Please bring some wine and snacks instead- and this time also your laptop! 🙃

Deadline Table — Focused Work Hours Bring your manuscript, your taxes, your laptop—whatever needs to get done. We have WiFi and phone sockets. You’ll sit on bar stools at the counter (not comfortable, by design). Two hours to focus hard. We’ll keep you accountable so you actually finish. Choose your intensity level: Level 1 — Light Touch: We check in once at the start, once at the end. You’re on your own. Level 2 — Mild: We check every 15 minutes. Gentle nudges if you drift. Level 3 — Strict: We’re watching. Phone down? We see it. Daydreaming? We call it out. Sign on your table says: “Stop procrastinating.” Two hours for €7.50 minimum order. If you need more time, it’s €3.20/hour after. Five seats, first come first served. No distractions. No bullshit. Just work that gets done. 100% plant-based. Inspired by Tokyo manuscript cafés. Hours: Wed–Thu: 1 PM–10 PM Fri: 4 PM–10 PM Sat–Sun: 12 PM–10 PM Closed Mon–Tue

Couldn't make Knowledge? Or want to debrief the dancing robots or Autonomous Workforce? Join us for a Knowledge '26 recap, insights sharing, a couple rounds of golf, and fun at Topgolf. As always, drinks and food will be provided. More details to come — mark your calendar, RSVP, and save your spot today!

Get ready for a Picnic, this is our social and member appreciation event for the year! Feel free to bring family, but be sure to reach out with the number of attendees, so we can provide food for everyone. There will of course be food, music, games and fun! Event is held rain or shine, we have a covered shelter house reserved for the event. Agenda --- Moderators Kimberly Deal - Columbus Atlassian User Group Leader Kevin Stanley - Columbus Atlassian User Group Leader Greg Sprowls - Columbus Atlassian Community Leader Hosted By Kimberly Deal, Atlassian User Group Leader Kevin Stanley, Chief Everything Greg Sprowls, Agility Lead --- Global Partner Atlassian (http://atlassian.com) Millions of users globally rely on Atlassian products every day for improving software development, project management, collaboration, and code quality. For over a decade, Atlassian customers have come together to network, share ideas, solve problems, and find new ways to use Atlassian products. Today, more than 15,000 people take part in Atlassian community events in more than 30 countries. --- Complete your event RSVP here: https://ace.atlassian.com/events/details/atlassian-columbus-presents-annual-columbus-ace-summer-picnic/.

Topic to be announced. **THANK YOU** *Franklin University* for hosting our meetup! To learn more about *Franklin University*, please visit their website: https://www.franklin.edu/ **DIRECTIONS** Franklin University Fisher Hall 300 E. Main St, Columbus, OH 43215 Map: https://maps.app.goo.gl/jxjBA2hUmS5qrvhq8 Parking is FREE! Please park in Lot C in front of Fisher Hall. See attached map. NOTE: Map the address only. When mapping with Google Maps it may use the Fisher Hall at OSU, which is NOT correct. **Want to sponsor the pizza and/or bar tab?** Please contact me if you would like to sponsor this meetup's pizza and/or bar tab: angelo@mandato.com

## 🤝 Host Information A co-hosted event by ProductTank Columbus & Women in Product Columbus 💡 About the Workshop AI adoption is stalling across organizations — not because of a lack of motivation or tools, but because it's fundamentally a behavior design challenge. This hands-on workshop applies proven Behavior Design models and methods to help you move from a vague organizational wish to boost AI adoption to 3-5 concrete, testable interventions you can act on starting tomorrow. Whether you're a product manager, on a product team, or just someone trying to get AI to actually stick at work, you'll leave with a clear picture of what's worth focusing on, what to ignore, and how to drive real, sustained adoption — no guesswork required. 🛠️ What to Bring Laptop: Fully charged and ready to go. AI Assistant: Have your favorite AI assistant pulled up. (Dom will be using Claude, but feel free to use whichever assistant you prefer!) 🍕 Logistics & Perks Food & Drink: Pizza and drinks provided! Parking: Plenty of free spaces available on-site. ###

Come chat about Atlassian tools and best practices at the Reynoldsburg Sunny Street Cafe and Breakfast is on Atlassian! Let's get the day started off with breakfast with your ACE Leaders! We're always excited to talk about Atlassian Products, share our knowledge and hand out swag! Come chat with us about new product news and anything you are working on within the Atlassian product stack. This is a great opportunity to come see what we are all about, hear new business news and share with other Atlassian users your questions and experiences. We'd love to see new and old friends come out to chat and learn about Atlassian! Agenda --- Moderators Kimberly Deal - Columbus Atlassian User Group Leader Kevin Stanley - Columbus Atlassian User Group Leader Greg Sprowls - Columbus Atlassian Community Leader Hosted By Kimberly Deal, Atlassian User Group Leader Kevin Stanley, Chief Everything Greg Sprowls, Agility Lead --- Global Partner Atlassian (http://atlassian.com) Millions of users globally rely on Atlassian products every day for improving software development, project management, collaboration, and code quality. Partner Atlassian --- For over a decade, Atlassian customers have come together to network, share ideas, solve problems, and find new ways to use Atlassian products. Today, more than 15,000 people take part in Atlassian community events in more than 30 countries. --- Complete your event RSVP here: https://ace.atlassian.com/events/details/atlassian-columbus-presents-rise-and-shine-with-atlassian-reynoldsburg-5/.

**The Behavior Gap: Where Products Win or Lose** Teams today have more data than ever, and yet many still struggle to understand why customers adopt, engage with, or abandon their products. Teams sprint, ship faster, and chase more signals… all while metrics stall and confidence drops. The missing piece isn’t more data. It’s often the behavioral insight between the metrics, explaining why the numbers move in the first place. Dashboards can tell you what customers did, but understanding why they did it (and how to influence what they do next) requires a deeper blend of insights. This session is about closing that gap. Drawing from real-world experience designing and scaling products as [ZoCo Design](https://zocodesign.com/)’s CEO, [Lacey](https://www.linkedin.com/in/laceypicazo/) will share how to cut through the noise and identify the insights that actually change behavior—moving people, and moving metrics. You’ll learn: * Why understanding customer behavior is a quant and qual challenge * How to spot the signals that actually predict behavior change * Where AI accelerates insight, and where it creates distraction * How to get meaningfully closer to customers, without adding more tools This talk reframes how to evaluate performance and identify what levers actually improve it, helping your team to make smarter bets with greater confidence. Every meaningful outcome is driven by behavior change. And when you know how to design for behavior, you stop guessing, and start building things that work. **About Our Speaker** [Lacey Picazo](https://www.linkedin.com/in/laceypicazo/) is the Founder and CEO of ZoCo, a healthcare product studio that turns complex, high-stakes ideas into products that drive real-world adoption. She partners with healthcare organizations to uncover critical care delivery insights, focus product strategy through behavior design, and build solutions that patients and providers actually use. Thanks to our 2026 sponsors: [Clarivoy](https://www.clarivoy.com), [What Box Consulting Group](https://www.whatboxconsultinggroup.com), [Conductrics](https://www.conductrics.com), and [Piwik PRO](https://piwik.pro) More info at [cbusdaw.com](https://cbusdaw.com)

We are bringing Microsoft Build sessions to Columbus Ohio! The Central Ohio Azure Meetup and Central Ohio .NET Developer's Group (CONDG) are coming together to bring some of the labs and breakouts from Microsoft Build to your backyard. In this free, 1 day event, you are going to Build stuff with us! And yes, there will be free food. So please RSVP for a head count!