OCAndroid Main Meetup #66(all-level training4 coders+users,&mo­re via cmts!)+

  • March 28, 2013 · 6:15 PM
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M0TBPV:M0TBPV:

  1. M3BBXA: Audience: only members of OCAndroid and their guests who RSVP YES here;
    1. MKCUHA: for what OCAndroid & Android is, see our "About us.." on the left-hand column of every page.
  2. MFOITP: Recent & Upcoming Occurrences and Historic Changes, in order of start time:
    1. MFRHYB:Format: scheduled-YYYY.MM.DDDay: #(some topics) short-URL
    2. :
    3. M8261W: Volunteer to be a presenter, or an official event host or other leader!
    4. M0SMZZ: Starting 2012.03.14Recurring-Agenda: recurring community meetup agenda M0TAGN -READ to know what we do & what to bring
      1. MKCRIT: our all-level at-your-own pace in-person training
        1. MKCD2E: subjects/tracks OCAndroid offers:
          1. M0TJPA:our successful & original  Android programmer training
            1. M6YEC3: both in (native code=Java) and (in portable code, notably in PhoneGap).
            2. M6YHZ7: hugely successful in both our 1st release for Java and our 1st release for PhoneGap.
          2. MKCCWZ: our original Android user syllabus training
            1. MKCD7H: 1st created by leader Lucy adapting from her recent Laguna Woods Android class.
      2. M0TIDD: Activities: see instead parent section M0SMZZ.
    5. MFOJTD: 2012.07.30Mon: #59(including BEST TABLETS,OUYA GAME CONSOLE,GOOGLE JOB)http://meetu.ps/fs52l
    6. M825VG: Starting 2012.08.27
      Cost: just $5 per regular member & guest and $0 per official leader or pre-announced presenter, plus any food you buy unless someone is buying.
    7. MFOJDR: 2012.08.27Mon: #60(NOVEL USES OF ANDROID, as TV entertainment center PC)http://meetu.ps/h6RFz
    8. MFMGD1:Starting 2012.10.25, repeats on the last Thu every month at the time range specified above.
      1. MFRHR2: From here, will likely be changed to Mon or Tue.
    9. MFOIVV: 2012.10.25Thu: #61(Android as a controller of other devices)http://meetu.ps/jFWys
    10. MFOJ5Z: 2012.12.06Thu: #62(canceled including for the holidays) http://meetu.ps/unknown
    11. MFMA8R: Starting 2012.12.27, VENUE
      1. MFMAI1: CONVENIENT: right by Irvine Valley College (between 5 & 405 freeways) and with plenty of adjacent free parking
      2. MFMAIW: features free wifi though it's sometimes flaky and/or overloaded, so still PLEASE BRING portable hotspots if you have some.
      3. MFMAZH: has no TVs nor projectors, so PLEASE BRING portable displays (as a LCD panel/TV and/or projection display+screen) if you have some.
      4. MFMAKD: COOL: typically features a spirited diverse smart crowd of mostly IVC students plus some UCI students.
      5. MFMAWE: offers a full selection of non-alcoholic drinks plus pastries, with several good restaurants next-door.
      6. MJIHZD: We'll likely be in the:
        1. MFMDRL: patio room which is
          1. MJII8T: big
          2. MJII9B: not well-insulated so if cold outside, HAVE/BRING warm clothing.
          3. MJII1C: noisy if other patrons are also in the room.
            1. MJIIA8: so last done 2013.01.31Thu: #64(Android auto-interfaces & custom ROMS).
        2. MJII41: inside & close to the bathroom.
    12. MFOJ7K: 2012.12.27Thu: #63(including Android rooting & custom ROMs)http://meetu.ps/qGHTR
    13. MFOJ9I: 2013.01.31Thu: #64(Android auto-interfaces & custom ROMS) http://meetu.ps/s8rHM
    14. MFRGJO: 2013.02.28Thu: #65(including Linux-on-Android,Miles' Dynamic Forms,+cmt)http://meetu.ps/sdTx2
    15. MIYKGY: 2013.03.28Thu~ #66(comments suggest topics!)http://meetu.ps/z6GqY
      1. MKC0VB: definitely our classic at-your-own-pace all-level training, for programmers & for users
    16. MJGDV3: 2013.04.25Thu~ #67(comments suggest topics!)http://meetu.ps/D84VM
    17. MJGF5M: 2013.05.25Thu~ #68(comments suggest topics!)http://meetu.ps/D89R6
    18. :
  3. MHQ8ST: Want more folks attending, plus this & more great events totally suiting you?
    Google Image Search(Bring your laptop) image ~36*6+4
    Then MAKE IT HAPPEN! -click here!
  4. MGEM3E: All info in this description applies to every occurrence unless noted.
  5. LG4OWH: What are these codes as “LG4OWH:” on this point? They’re short IDs to date-stamp, uniquely-reference, & portably-track most any point or item.
  6. MFMB3V: Event listing history, in order:
    1. MGEL2O: starting from listing creation, all authoring by I DestinyArchitect except if noted otherwise.
    2. MFRJYT: This listing is a copy of the prior listing & so on; so, for prior change/history entries here, see prior listings.
    3. MKE2N8: ...for prior listing history, see prior listing.
    4. MJGF45: updated MIYKGY; +2 subsequent occurrences MJGDV3 & MJGF5M;
    5. MJGI51: due to 3+ members RSVPing YES to accidentally-continued listing OCAndroid Beginner-to-Intermediate Developers' Training, moved up "M0TIDD: Activities" so they will see it's here; in particular, while still keeping MHQ8ST top, dropped "MFOITP: Recent & Upcoming Occurrences and Historic Changes" towards the end especially given these details as meeting topic, if significant, will be put into the meeting title.
    6. MJGO1A: "MHQ8ST: Want more folks attending".. entry moved to here
    7. MJGNJG: RE "M0TIDD: Activities", lots of improvements, including new sections.. entry moved to here.
    8. MJGNY5: effective review-with-needed-improvements of ~90% of the event listing; pst2013.03.10Sun1330.
    9. MJGQT2: 1st use of links ..via "devices for accessing Meetup" example; pst2013.03.10Sun1414. entry moved to here.
    10. MJGUFL: several  improvements, especially on "MFOLRC: Carpools!"; add 5 images; pst2013.03.10Sun1822. entry moved to here
    11. MJI3W5: I now see at "Mar 11, 2013 at 7:28 AM" Miles.. entry moved to here
    12. MJI78C: Reluctantly "MHQ8ST: Want more folks attending" move from item 1 to just before "MGEM3E" (near end) as this, while very important to every occurrence and what notably members are having trouble getting, is still generic indeed covering events all over so not the info the reader is 1st expecting. Also added pic from main article.
    13. MJIBDZ: .. pst2013.03.11Mon1040. entry moved to under MKE4VN.
    14. MJIH3R: M825VG: added "or pre-announced presenter", and RE related M8261W, move it up in the time line where it belongs & extend; added MJIHZD; misc improvements; pst2013.03.11Mon1317.
    15. MJIR6U: At Lucy's suggestion, added MJIQ8I,..moved entry to here.
    16. MJIYIQ: .. pst2013.03.11Mon1853. moved entry to here
    17. MKC1J9: add MKC0VB; rename title fr(OCAndroid Main Meetup #66(comments suggest topics!)+); pst2013.03.27Wed1158.
    18. MKCT5A: moved content of "M0TIDD: Activities" to post of "M0SMZZ"; move text which was at new MKCUHA to "About us" per its pt MKCTYF; pst2013.03.27Wed2221.
    19. MKE4EG: move content of "MHQ8ST: Want more folks attending" & associated history out per here; truncated history at MKE2N8; pst2013.03.28Thu1507.
    20. MKEC3T: adding links to the training as in MIYKGY; pst2013.03.28Thu1750.
    21. MKED5D: added Martin Martinez as an Event Host & remove Kathryn Free; add edit note MKED8S; pst2013.03.28Thu1755; 1time delay time 15min (to 1815-2215) in order to save changes and as running late; pst2013.03.28Thu1758.

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  • Michael Martel

    Happy easter everybody, and sorry for the delayed response. I think training should start a little earlier and if it could be an hour and a half instead of an hour that would be great. Either way it was a protective meetup and I learned a couple of basic things. If maybe the next meet up could be a little bit more organized and a bit faster of a start that would be awesome. Either way it was a fun experience and I hope to see everybody soon.

    March 31, 2013

  • DestinyArchitect

    OUR ALL-LEVEL AT-YOUR-OWN-PACE TRAINING http://meetup.com/OCAndroid/eve...­ FOR CODERS
    *Specifically this training session will be for Android Java (see http://1.jothere.com/MJHref?q=&...;­ ) and will be run by leader Bill http://meetup.com/OCAndroid/mem...­
    *We can also do PhoneGap if volunteers

    March 28, 2013

    • DestinyArchitect

      I got things going:
      *introduced everyone
      *sorted & reseated the 5 participants by skill level
      **Michael M: never installed the IDE
      **Martin M: done 1 app
      **Alex: done 1.5 apps
      **Chris: done 3 apps
      **Bill: done ~5apps
      --a bit of "musical chairs"
      *Got them started on our Java syllabus http://meetup.com/OCA...­
      **Fixed the tutorial link in step LUQAFM
      *Then they were off & working, & still are.
      **Bill (our best) is helping Michael M, nice but spoiling Martin & Alex of their learning to train ;-)

      March 28, 2013

    • Michael Martel

      Lol I fee like the special child

      March 31, 2013

  • DestinyArchitect

    OUR ALL-LEVEL AT-YOUR-OWN-PACE TRAINING http://1.JotHere.com/MJGKNU­
    *As we've successfully done may times before
    *offering FOR BOTH USERS & CODERS, threads TBA.
    *WE'RE FIRING THIS UP AGAIN, due to the many member's requests for it(see coder thread)
    *if u want one of these training sessions, be sure to follow the RSVP instructions http://1.JotHere.com/967#MJGO6I­

    March 28, 2013

  • Michael Martel

    Feb 28th 2014 SCaLE 2014 meetup link. http://www.meetup.com/OCAndroid...­

    April 25th Meetup Android Meet up.
    OCAndroid Main Meetup #66(all-level training4 coders+users,&more via cmts!)+.
    http://www.meetup.com/OCAndroid...­

    May 30th Meetup Android Meet up.
    http://www.meetup.com/OCAndroid...­

    on OCAndroid: OCJUG(Java) Std Mtg 2013.03+more. Meet up.
    http://www.meetup.com/OCAndroid...­

    StartupWeekend.Org Bootcamp of US.CA.Orange_County #1. Tentaive meetup.
    http://www.meetup.com/OCAndroid...­

    March 28, 2013

    • Michael Martel

      Make Sure to RSVP for everything you are interested in.

      March 28, 2013

  • Michael Martel

    Gaming on droid devices, here are some popular controllers and devices used today. http://www.thinkgeek.com/produc...­

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Mog...­

    March 28, 2013

  • Bill Zwicky

    Achos Gamepad - a 7-inch tablet with joysticks - has been recently released:
    http://www.archos.com/products/...­

    March 28, 2013

  • Lucy Parker

    Five months after its release, Android 4.2 known like 4.1+ as Jelly Bean) is still not widely used by most manufacturers. In his Android Power Blog on ComputerWorld, (http://blogs.computerworld.com/...­ ), JR Raphael predicts that some manufacturers may skip this upgrade altogether, waiting for Google's next Android release, possibly in May at Google's big I/O conference, and possibly to be called Key Lime Pie.

    March 28, 2013

  • Alexey

    Preview of Qt 5 for Android

    http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2...­

    March 28, 2013

  • Alexey

    Samsung Will Release Tizen-Based Smartphone This Year
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2...­

    March 28, 2013

  • Richard P. Hooper PhD

    Here's the link to the Samsung site where they show all of their cell phones: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobil...­. First select your carrier and they see what there offerings are. I don't believe anyone is offering the Galaxy 4S just yet, but rumors are that Verizon will be offering something within the next couple of months.

    March 28, 2013

  • Martin Martinez

    For any true Electronics junkie, next weekend the 2 main Electronics
    Swap Meets in Southern California take place.

    Next Saturday March 30, 2013
    TRW Swap Meet
    Show Address: Aviation Blvd & Marine Ave
    Redondo Beach, CA 90278
    Show Frequency: Monthly - Last Saturday
    Show Times: 7:00am to 11:30am


    Next Sunday March 31,2013
    ACP Computer & Electronics Swapmeet
    Show Address: 1310 E. Edinger Ave. Suite A
    Santa Ana, CA 92705
    Show Frequency: Every Other Month (odd months) Last Sunday of the Month
    Show Times: 6am to 2pm

    March 28, 2013

  • Alexey

    Will be in 30 minutes. Have stuck in office

    March 28, 2013

  • Martin Martinez

    Packing laptop ETA 20 min

    March 28, 2013

  • Michael Martel

    Bill http://www.meetup.com/OCAndroid...­ attendance & review of this event. Arrived at 6:15 p.m.

    March 28, 2013

  • Michael Martel

    Richard http://www.meetup.com/OCAndroid...­
    attendance & review of this event. Arrive at 5:55 p.m.

    March 28, 2013

  • Michael Martel

    Luis http://www.meetup.com/OCAndroid...­ attendance & review of this event. Arrived at 6:00 p.m.

    March 28, 2013

  • Michael Martel

    Steve http://www.meetup.com/OCAndroid...­ attendance & review of this event. Arrived at 6:40 p.m.

    March 28, 2013

    • Michael Martel

      I meant to write chris, typo sorry about that

      March 28, 2013

  • Michael Martel

    Lucy http://www.meetup.com/OCAndroid...­
    attendance and review of this event. She arrived at 6:25 p.m.

    March 28, 2013

  • DestinyArchitect

    My Destiny http://meetup.com/OCAndroid/mem...­ attendance & review of this event.
    *Leaders I, Lucy, & Bill are leaving from Laguna Hills now, ETA 6:15pm.

    March 28, 2013

    • DestinyArchitect

      heavy traffic from a freeway accident.. Era 5 minutes. I expect Lucy and Bill are already there.

      March 28, 2013

    • Michael Martel

      arrived at 6:40 p.m.

      March 28, 2013

  • Michael Martel

    I Michael Martel http://www.meetup.com/OCAndroid...­ attendance and review of this event.
    I arrived at 6:30 p.m. and I am doing the attendance for everybody and name tags for everybody

    March 28, 2013

  • DestinyArchitect

    TIME
    *Note EVENT HAS BEEN DELAYED 15min (now 6:15pm-10:15pm) due to the delay of 3 leaders http://meetup.com/OCAndroid/eve...­
    *This is a 1 time delay

    March 28, 2013

  • DestinyArchitect

    KEY STUFF TO BRING. Quoting from our agenda http://1.JotHere.com/967#M3BB40­ as this cannot be said enough, quote:
    M3BB40: Key stuff to bring:
    MJGNGL:Bring your devices for accessing Meetup & portable Internet if you have it.
    M6VJ4I:DEFINITELY BRING YOUR LAPTOP –VERY IMPORTANT, including for posting questions & announcements, RSVPing for & suggesting future events & topics, and web research.
    M6VJ2P:Bring ALL DEVICES you may want to work on and/or have questions about..
    M0SVG5:If programming or learning-to, BRING YOUR HARDWARE & SOFTWARE for coding/developing (your laptop+mobile devices+hookup cables)
    M0TCJ6: If you don’t yet have the software (as Android IDE) installed, that’s fine, as we provide it and help you install it during our meeting (at least in OCAndroid).

    March 28, 2013

  • DestinyArchitect

    OUR ALL-LEVEL AT-YOUR-OWN-PACE TRAINING http://meetup.com/OCAndroid/eve...­ FOR USERS
    *Specifically it's the brand new user syllabus http://1.JotHere.com/4080#MKDTK...­ developed & taught by leader Lucy http://meetup.com/OCAndroid/mem...­
    **This will be the 1st run of it!
    **Thanks to Lucy for also writing this for us!

    March 28, 2013

  • DestinyArchitect

    Anyone changing their RSVP from YES to NO:
    *This is covered in http://1.JotHere.com/3975#MJI5Q...­ and surrounding, but in particular/addition:
    **We always appreciate ur letting us know ur RSVP change.
    **and as any healthy group always likes to know,&esp when you were a YES before,
    What's keeping from coming? -And how much will it prevent you from future times? -as do you need a carpool or are times/venue a bad? Or you don't like the program? Or something bother you? Or what? -&we'll work to solve it 4u if we possibly can
    ***If it's controversial,email a event ldr; otherwise:
    ***If u've already make cmts on the event about ur attendance, just click "Reply" on that cmt thread,otherwise create a new thread
    ****Meetup's RSVP-comments incorrectly always create a new thread,so if u already hv a thread,Reply to that then separately change ur YES/NO.
    **&as u were a YES before, then what about our next ones as upcoming http://meetu.ps/D89R6­ and on our home page ?-just RSVP there.Thx

    March 28, 2013

    • DestinyArchitect

      We've had 6 of these so far (Miles,Sean,Siqiao,Mandy­,Laide,Karmen), I think higher than we've ever had before, and none are explaining anything or much Why, as none have given us the full thing here (except Karmen really explained Why http://meetup.com/OCA...­ -thanks, Karmen! ), so why I make this special post. Including very important to then, if you can't make this one, RSVP YES for upcomign events (listed on http://Meetup.com/OCA...­ ) or if some problem going on, please let us know as explained.

      March 28, 2013

  • Karmen

    got flooded hot water pipe broke

    March 28, 2013

    • DestinyArchitect

      *Bummer! Knowing you're coming, Lucy has spent the whole morning developing an Android user training syllabus http://1.JotHere.com/...­ especially with you in mind, Karmen; she will be bummed you can't make it.
      *Also as every healthy group likes especially when anyone changes from RSVP YES to NO, make the next ones: please RSVP (including hopefully some YESes!) for some upcoming, all listed on http//meetup.com/OCAndro­id/#upcoming .
      *Good luck with the pipes.

      March 28, 2013

    • Karmen

      I get it. Please extend my apologies. My back is just about out now from moving boxes and furniture taking pictures for ins. co. I am dyeing over here. Believe me if i could I would. again my apologies.

      March 28, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    I hope I don't get kicked off the group but something came up and I no longer can attend. I deeply apologize!

    March 27, 2013

  • Mandy He

    I have 90% can't come, so sad.

    March 27, 2013

  • Siqiao Chen

    I can not make it due to schedule issue.

    March 27, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    some other obligations have come up. I wont be able to make it.

    March 12, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Looking forward to attending the Beginner's Android Training

    March 12, 2013

  • DestinyArchitect

    ANNOUNCING THIS LISTING, now for the 1st time
    *This event is over 2 weeks away yet we've already got 13 RSVP YES --cool!! Indeed so many early RSVPs is a record for us I think -way to go, guys!
    **including already 3 RSVPs for "M0TJPA: [our all-level] Android programmer training" during this!
    ***if u want to do this training, follow the RSVP instructions for that.
    *+I've just fully rewritten the event description (~1day of work) so worth reading
    **Note, making the whole description about 1/3rd its present size, 3 large sections of it I plan to factor out and just include a short link to there
    ***They are "M3BBXA: Audience:", "M0TIDD: Activities", and "MHQ8ST: Want more folks attending"
    ***In meantime, please read -it's all stuff u need to know.
    **and constructive feedback, pls!
    *Comments on this announcement & listing? Just click "Reply on this comment.
    *RSVP&hope to see ya!

    March 11, 2013

  • DestinyArchitect

    Miles Pickens http://meetup.com/OCAndroid/mem...­ attendance&review of this event.
    *"Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:25 PM", he RSVPed YES for this, during our last mtg http://meetu.ps/sdTx2­ , along with 6 other attendees. -Delightful!

    March 11, 2013

    • DestinyArchitect

      *Today "7:28 AM", Meetup emailed me saying unexpectedly Miles changed his RSVP from YES to NO
      **and w/o explanation
      ***and even tho(as he&others may not have noticed) explanation is kindly asked for especially in any unexpected cases as this an RSVP going YES-to-NO by the listing's point MJI5Q1(just page-search Ctrl-F for that) aka http://1.JotHere.com/...­ +MJITLK+MJIT9G+surroundi­ng context.
      ****Certainly this is no emergency,&hopefully­ this was just an oversight, but
      ****Everyone, kindly read point on RSVPing if u haven't already as it applies to everyone and actually the reporting instructions are newly improved to also support sensitive situations per point MJIV6T.
      *****Plus thanks to Lucy for her recent full review & extensive suggestions on this text "MIUMRZ: RSVP!".
      **Miles, u're are an important person to us!, so what's up w/this? -Notably pls see http://meetup.com/OCA...­ where there&here u can reply. Thx!

      March 11, 2013

  • DestinyArchitect

    Due to the proven success of this new general event series, I am merging into this listing of it the RSVP YESes from our prior sub-event series where those series were subsumed by this more general series but which I still left them repeating at a very slow rate on our calendar in case they might need to be resumed (as once all instances of an event series have past, Meetup incorrectly does not allow the series ever be resumed, just recreated) but as it's now clear that officially canceling them is the best thing due the anticipated & now demonstrated greater success of this series, so I'm now canceling them with referrals to this thread for the explanation. I will Reply to this thread soon with the exact detail for each.

    March 10, 2013

    • DestinyArchitect

      cmt1of2. I now just canceled the series of its next occurrence "OCAndroid Beginner-to-Intermediate­ Developers' Training 10+" currently scheduled 2013.03.18Mon1900
      *all listings of it:
      **the original, of http://meetup.com/OCA...­
      **the original's spurious duplicate, of http://meetup.com/OCA...­
      *which was "Repeating on the third Mon of every 12 months" (very slowly as this thread's 1st comment explains)
      *and so have copied to here the 3 non-auto YES RSVPs of these:
      **From the 1st listing, this 1:
      *** http://meetup.com/OCA...­ Mandy He
      **From the 2nd listing, these 2:
      *** http://meetup.com/OCA...­ mathew
      *** http://meetup.com/OCA...­ David Jung

      March 10, 2013

    • DestinyArchitect

      cmt2of2
      **To these 3 RSVPing there YES for our dev training
      ***Welcome to this our new&improved training!
      ***Note ur date&location&re­peat hv changed 2this of our Main Meetup(currently repeating monthly,only ~10 days later,&a few miles away). Hopefully this not hinder u from attending it but if it does,as 1 always sd do, update ur RSVP w/comment explaining why.
      ***+note:
      *All our developer training has long since been provided by this Main Meetup series per its point M0TJPA, and the surrounding text, which can be found in ~10secs by on this page doing web browser page search (as ctrl-F) for this point #, else via http://1.JotHere.com/...­ but that returns all versions. Please read that point for full details on our new improved offering and our new way to take advantage of this training notably notably how to RSVP for it per point MJGO6I here. Looking forward to each of your RSVP/attendance -threads specifying the training you'd like & need as that details. :-)

      March 10, 2013

  • Alexey

    I'll be there

    February 28, 2013

12 went

  • DestinyArc­hitect
    of Laguna Hills; 2010.10.26- 179+RSVPs&98+attends; Head&~Founder, Organizer
    Event Host
  • Lucy Parker
    of Laguna Hills;2011.09.28-,36+RSVP YES,41+attends,Users Leadr#1
    Event Host
  • Martin Martinez
    of Orange&Caltech;2012.02.15-,32+RSVP YES,23+attends; OCJUG+ Ldr, Assistant Organizer
    Event Host
  • Bill Zwicky
    of Orange; 2011.08.10- 53+RSVPs&40+attend; Native Devlpr Ldr, Assistant Organizer
    Event Host
  • Alexey
    of Lake Forest; 2013.02.23-, 2+RSVPs,0+attend,droid game dev
  • Luis Cambuston
    of Tustin; 2013.02.22-, 0+RSVPs,0+attends,C# Matrix programmer
  • David Jung
    of Cypress; 2012.05.08-,3+RSVPs,1+attends,beg Android coder
  • Nathan Haines
    of La Mirada;joined 2012.02.23;0+RSVP,0+attend;Ubuntu track Ldr1
  • matthew
    of LA; 2012.03.20-,4+RSVPs,1+attends,beg Android coder
  • Michael Martel
    of Laguna Niguel; 2010.03.28-,0+RSVPs,0+attends,aspiring coder
  • A former member

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