About us
This is a group for those in the Sacramento area who like to discuss politics and philosophy. We have all had different experiences in life, but we always find that political issues are very relevant to our lives and we want to discuss these issues with others. These days, political discussions are sometimes constructive, but unfortunately they often become hostile when people with differing views are in the same room. It is important for us all to hear views other than our own from time to time, and there has to be a way to have honest, thoughtful discussions on issues important to our lives while keeping the discussion calm and polite. In this discussion group, we try to avoid being overly biased when presenting opinions and we will also work to avoid use of fallacies in making points. We expect that there will be differences of opinion, but as long as we keep a philosophical mindset these discussions should not descend into hostility. Many of us also like to discuss philosophical topics and we will have time for this as well and we will probably find that most philosophical concepts have real-world applications, including political. So this discussion group will hover between these two subjects, and we might even at times focus on other subjects as well.
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What Happened to Men's Social Institutions?
Old Soul at The Weatherstone, 812 21st Street, Sacramento, CA 95811, USA, Sacramento, CA, USWhere do men go to make friends, build community, learn skills, find mentors, and simply spend time together anymore?
For much of American history, there were a huge number of institutions that served this function: fraternal organizations, lodges, unions, service clubs, churches, men's associations, boys' organizations, athletic clubs, and countless informal gathering places. Many of these institutions have declined dramatically or disappeared altogether.
At the same time, we've seen something of an asymmetry develop. Women-only colleges, organizations, professional networks, fitness spaces, and other forms of women-centered community remain relatively common and are often regarded as legitimate ways of addressing women's particular needs. Male-only spaces, by contrast, can attract immediate suspicion — sometimes being treated as inherently exclusionary or even threatening simply because they are for men. In a prominent example of this asymmetry, the Boy Scouts became co-ed years ago, while the Girl Scouts remains a girls-only organization. There are many other similar examples for adult institutions as well, where previously male spaces became integrated, often as a result of legal action, while female spaces sometimes have special legal carve-outs.
Meanwhile, we hear increasingly about male isolation, declining friendship, alienation, depression, disengagement from work and community, and other forms of social disconnection.
How did we get here? And why does the disappearance of men's social infrastructure seem to be treated so differently from the creation or preservation of women's?
The video that inspired this discussion (link: https://youtu.be/Kcy9rQjMglU?si=KQYcSbKQZiovk1qn) makes a provocative argument about this history, tracing the decline of traditional men's institutions through social, economic, cultural, and legal changes. It also looks at newer attempts to rebuild male community, including Men's Sheds and F3.
You are recommended to watch the video before the meetup, but you don't have to watch it to participate. It gives us a useful starting point — and there is plenty in it to question, challenge, and discuss.
Some questions we'll explore:- What did traditional men's institutions actually provide?
- Why did so many of them disappear?
- Was this primarily the result of changing social attitudes, economic transformation, legal changes, or something else?
- Why has society become much more comfortable with women-only spaces than men-only spaces?
- Is there a meaningful distinction between exclusionary institutions and spaces designed to address particular social needs?
- Are men experiencing a distinctive form of social isolation today?
- If traditional men's institutions aren't coming back, what should replace what they provided?
- Can sports, outdoor activities, crafts, service, mentorship, education, or civic organizations create healthy forms of male community without simply recreating the past?
This isn't about blaming women or arguing that men should be given some special status. It's about asking whether we've dismantled parts of the social infrastructure that men depended on without building adequate replacements — and whether we're even comfortable acknowledging that there is a problem.
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