Hillwalking

A truly wonderful 8 mile walk in the lovely Essex countryside, a lake and delightful woods with a lunchtime stop in the idyllic renowned village of Stock ! Lets go with the flow! Train ticket : Ingatestone We shall buy group return train tickets at 10.15am for the train at 10.48am that arrives at Ingatestone at 11.15am. Or you may decide to drive. The walk shall commence by 11.25am. Please bring packed lunch, water, snacks etc, waterproof jacket and walking shoes or trainers. We shall spend over an hour in Stock at lunchtime to explore this wonderful village where the average house price is almost £1 million ! You should have adequate insurance for this type of activity and be able to walk 2.5 miles per hour. We aim to be back in London by around 5.15pm. Meetup fee £5 payable in cash or by bank transfer in advance. Please only post photos of others with their consent. My no 07714250849.

This relaxed evening walk, featured by National Geographic as one of the top walks in London, takes us through some of North London’s most scenic green corridors. Starting at Alexandra Palace, we pass through the village feel of Crouch End and Highgate before joining the beautiful Parkland Walk, a disused railway line now transformed into London’s longest nature reserve. Rich in wildlife and greenery, this peaceful route offers a surprising escape from the city as we follow the trail all the way to Finsbury Park, with the option to finish with a drink in a pub garden. *** ### 🕓 Schedule & Meeting Info **MEETING TIME:** 18:00 – Alexandra Palace Station (Bedford Road entrance) **TRAINS:** Great Northern services from Central London **HIKE START:** 18:30 Alexandra Palace (Bedford Road entrance) **HIKE FINISH:** Approx. 20:30 – Finsbury Park **RETURN TRAINS:** Victoria Line and National Rail services from Finsbury Park *** ### 📏 Hike Details **DISTANCE:** 4 miles (6.5 km) **TERRAIN:** Easy paths, parkland trails, and flat woodland tracks **GRADE:** Easy *** ### 🎒 What to Bring ✅ Comfortable walking shoes or trainers ✅ Light jacket or layers for the evening ✅ Water *** London walking group, evening walks London, Alexandra Palace walk, Parkland Walk London, Highgate walking routes, Crouch End walks, easy London walks, guided walks London, nature walks London, North London walking routes, social walks London, outdoor activities London #golondonhiking *** 📱 WhatsApp: 07968585224 📩 Mailing List: [Go London](https://www.golondonhiking.co.uk/contact) 🌐 Website: [www.golondonhiking.co.uk](https://www.golondonhiking.co.uk) 📸 Instagram: [@golondonhiking](https://www.instagram.com/golondonhiking/) 👍 Facebook Page: Go London Adventure 👥 Facebook Group: [Go London Hiking](https://www.facebook.com/groups/GoLondonHiking/) 📜 Terms & Conditions By signing up, you agree to our full T&Cs including our cancellation and refund policy. View T&Cs.

☀️ Summer Time After Work Club ☀️ Long days, golden evenings, and good company, this is your invite to a midweek exhale. Join a relaxed, childfree circle of like-minded women for easy chats, refreshing drinks, and a little sunshine therapy after the workday ends. Whether you want to unwind, laugh, vent, or just soak up the vibe, this is your space to connect and enjoy the summer nights ✌️🫶 ✨ Come as you are. Stay as long as you like ✨

**Metropolitan Walkers is part of the Ramblers, Britain's walking charity. All welcome for 3 'taster' walks, after which please join the Ramblers - info on the [Met Walkers website](https://www.metropolitan-walkers.org.uk/how-to-join/)** We follow the River Lea North West until entering Victoria Park. Following a brief section of the Regent's Canal, we walk through London Fields to end at Dalston. Optional pub stop at the end. Please note that, while the walk will end at Dalston Junction, Dalston Kingsland is also nearby. **Leisurely \| 4\.8 miles / 7\.7 km** **Start: Meet outside Bromley-By-Bow underground station. @ 07:00 pm** Postcode: E3 3JJ **End: Finish at Dalston Junction station, although Dalston Kingsland is also nearby** Postcode: E8 3DE

**🥋 Feel Safer, Get Stronger, Train Smarter - Battersea Park Bandstand** Join our friendly, outdoor Kung Fu classes in Battersea Park, focused on practical self-defence, functional fitness, and calm under pressure — all taught in a relaxed, ego-free environment. These sessions are designed to help you build real martial skill, improve strength and mobility, and develop confidence that carries into everyday life. No prior experience needed. Many people stay on afterwards for a relaxed social at the Pear Tree Café, just a short walk away. \*\*\* **🧠 About the Classes** Whether your goal is to improve fitness, learn practical self-defence, reduce stress, or simply try something different, these classes are open to **all levels (ages 16+)**. Training blends **traditional Kung Fu methods** with a modern understanding of movement, wellbeing, and long-term health. You’ll learn how to: * Handle punches and common attacks effectively * Use footwork and positioning to avoid strikes * Improve flexibility, balance, and joint mobility * Condition the body safely and progressively * Practise breathing and mindful awareness for calm and resilience Sessions are **beginner-friendly**, taught at a sensible pace, and structured to help you build skill step by step — without intimidation or pressure. \*\*\* **📍 When & Where** 🗓 Saturdays 2:30–4:30pm 🗓 Wednesdays 6:30–8:30pm 📌 **Battersea Park — Central Bandstand** We train outdoors year-round. If it rains, we train under cover nearby. Sessions are adapted sensibly to conditions — part of building resilience and presence. The location is well connected and easy to fit into a normal working week. \*\*\* ## 💰 Pricing 🎟 **First Class (Intro Offer): £10** A one-time introductory session to try the class and see if it’s right for you. If you decide to continue within 48 hours of your first class, this £10 will be deducted from your first class block. *** 🥋 **Training Options** After your first session, training continues via class blocks: **5-Class Block — £75** *(most popular for beginners)* Valid for 2 months A great way to build a solid foundation and get a real feel for the system. **10-Class Block — £120 (best value)** Valid for 4 months Ideal for regular training and steady long-term progress. *** All sessions are 2 hours and designed to give you practical, progressive development each time. Classes are booked in advance. Blocks are non-refundable but flexible if you need to miss a session. **📩 Booking & Contact:** ✉️ [joe.cheung75@gmail.com](http://joe.cheung75@gmail.com) 📱 WhatsApp/text: 07914 411979 \*\*\* **🎒 What to Bring** * Loose, comfortable clothing. * Water. * An open mind - everything else is taught step by step. \*\*\* **💬 What Students Say** *"* *Joe makes everybody feel welcome, and more importantly, he is a great teacher. Rather than a one size fits all approach, he tailors the class to your strengths and weaknesses and he is extremely patient."* – Natalie, beginner *“A true gem for anyone searching for a holistic system to train strength and awareness.”* – Julius, beginner *“I strongly recommend his services for 16 year olds and over. If you are passionate about martial arts then this class will open your mind to many classical & practical Kung Fu styles.”* – George, White Sash \*\*\* **🔔 Important Info** * Please let me know in advance about any injuries or health conditions. * Classes are non-refundable. * Regular training builds confidence, skill, and resilience over time. \*\*\* **👤 About the Instructor** I’m Joe Cheung, a black sash instructor in Baji Zhandao Kung Fu. My martial arts background includes: * 12+ years Baji Zhandao Kung Fu (2nd Black Sash) * 10+ years Bujinkan Ninjitsu (2nd Dan Black Belt) * 2 years Urban Krav Maga Private one-to-one lessons are also available — just ask. \*\*\* **🧭 What Is Baji Zhandao?** Baji Zhandao means *“Battlefield Style”*. It blends over 10 powerful Chinese martial systems into one adaptable method: * Baji Quan * Yang Tai Chi Quan * Pigua Zhang * Tongbei Quan * Bagua Zhang * Xingyi Quan This system was developed by Grandmaster Chen Fu Sheng — a former Chinese Special Forces instructor with 50+ years of real-world martial experience. 🔗 More information: [bajizhandao.co.uk](https://bajizhandao.co.uk) \*\*\* **✅ Ready to Begin?** If you want to feel safer, get stronger, improve mobility, and train in a grounded, supportive group — you’ll be very welcome. Train outdoors. Build skill for life. Leave stronger than you arrived.

**Advanced booking is required** \- find out more on our website [https://www.silverfit.org.uk/ashburton](https://www.silverfit.org.uk/ashburton) **Meet Up is a means for promotion and *not a way to sign up* to this session.** **Venue:** Ashburton Park, Lower Addiscombe Rd, Croydon CR0 6RX, meet at Ashburton Hall. **When:** Wednesdays, meet at 9.15am for 9.30am start **Price:** £3 to pay in person on the day **If you need Nordic Walking poles provided by the instructor** For those who need to borrow poles it is essential that you sign up to the sessions beforehand so instructors know how many sets of poles they will need, this will help avoid any disappointment. Please turn up at least 20 minutes before the session so that everyone can catch up beforehand and enjoy a full session - especially those who need to be set up with poles. Nordic Walk instructors will not normally delay the session for latecomers. *** For more information about this session please email the Project Manager at - **info@silverfit.org.uk** Learn more about **Silverfit Charity** on our website [www.silverfit.org.uk](http://www.silverfit.org.uk/)

Join us for our weekly Fems and Thems Climbing Social, a welcoming space for women and non-binary climbers to connect, climb, and have fun! Whether you're new to climbing or a seasoned pro, this social is all about building a supportive community and celebrating our shared love for the sport. This is a relaxed, no-pressure environment designed to help you enjoy climbing while meeting like-minded people. Open to all women and non-binary folks aged 18 and over. Cost: £16 regular peak time entry at Bethwall Climbing centre (£2 registration fee might apply) + £4 rental shoes (chalk is provided Come solo or bring a friend – everyone is welcome! Let’s climb, chat, and share some good vibes. We can’t wait to see you there! For any questions or accessibility inquiries, feel free to contact us in advance.

Join us for a chilled out, circular, stroll around Wanstead Park. The Park is a peaceful space with old trees, open grassland, woodland paths and a beautiful chain of lakes. It has history, with traces of the grand Wanstead House estate that once stood there. We'll take this time to slow down, engage and enjoy nature. We ask that you bring a specific topic you'd like to explore, or a question that's slightly unusual to the every day thinking we get caught in. Examples could be something like: * If you were to be born again, which career would you try out? * What's the best decision you made in the last year? * What is the smallest thing you could change in your life that would have the biggest positive impact right now? No need to bring the cleverest question. Come curious, open, prepared to share and ready to hear new perspectives and maybe even meet life long friends. We'll meet at the park entrance at 10.00am (see photo and map). We'll wait until 10.15am (only) in case anyone is delayed. We'll share our questions all together and then head off as a (loose) group, in pairs or threes, returning to the same park gates around 12.00pm. Access to the park entrance on Wanstead Park Road is easy by public transport, Central Line or Elizabeth Line. By joining the walk you (of course) take full responsibility for your wellbeing. We look forward to meeting you!

Join us as we hike through the forests of Leith Hill. Marking the highest point in Surrey, the tower at the hill's summit provides views on a clear day of no less than thirteen counties. As should be expected of such a notable location, it has played a leading role in England's history. There are no less than three iron age forts in the vicinity, and in the early Anglo-Saxon era the hill was the site of a great battle that preserved the country's independence from the Vikings. In later centuries though, it was the area's beauty that attracted people, most notable of whom were the Wedgwood pottery family, and their close relation the composer Ralph Vaughan Williams. He was famous for collecting folk songs on his travels through the countryside. Our day will see us exploring the forests for both their history and scenery. **Meeting place**: London Victoria Train Station - near Oliver Bonas (No. 53), not far from platforms 10 and 11). Please see the following link for the station map: [London Victoria Station Map - Aug 24](https://www.networkrail.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/London-Victoria-Station-Map.pdf) **Meeting time**: 10.00AM (for 10.41 train) **Price**: £5. London-Holmwood rail fare is £11.53 return - one third off for railcard users or Group Save (you can team up for a minimum of three people for this on the day.) **Distance**: 16 km/10 miles **Hike level**: easy to medium (you need to be reasonably fit to participate in this activity) **Expected return in London**: 7PM (please commit yourself for a full day) **Things to bring**: hiking boots, waterproof clothing, water, packed lunch to eat at half way

Let's go with the flow and do this amazing 9 mile linear walk whereby we walk by the amazing Virginia Water Lake and then the Obelisk Pond and Cow Pond in Great Windsor Park before embarking on the iconic Long Walk to Windsor ! Things to bring : packed lunch, water, snacks etc and waterproof jacket and walking shoes/boots/trainers. We shall buy group train tickets as from 10.15am for the 10.50am train that arrives at Egham at 11.27am. Train ticket: Return to Windsor Eton Riverside. At Egham we need take the 500 bus at 11.52am that stops outside The Wheatsheaf pub by Virginia Water Lake. Or you may decide to drive. You should have adequate and appropriate insurance for this type of activity and be able to walk 2.5 miles per hour. At Windsor we shall have a drink or a coffee before taking the train back to London shortly before 5pm which first requires train replacement coach to Staines. Please only post photos of others with their consent. My no is 07714250849.

**Backabush is going back to the Scottish Highlands for another mountain adventure!** This time we are going to Glen Shiel, a region on the west coast absolutely crammed with Munro tops and mountain ridges. TO RSVP VISIT: **[https://www.meetup.com/backabush/events/308538860/](https://www.meetup.com/backabush/events/308538860/)**

**Location:** Outside The Oystercatcher (riverside entrance) Kings Lodge, 7 Victoria Parade, New Capital Quay, London, SE10 9FR *Look for the river-facing entrance near the seating area.* About a 8 minute walk from Greenwich DLR Station. **Event Description:** This is a relaxed, friendly walking group for women aged 25–35 who want to enjoy fresh air, gentle exercise, and good conversation. This week we will be walking along the river up into Greenwich Park and then returning into the Greenwich Town for transport links. Walk will take approx 1 hour. Whether you’re new to the area, looking to make friends, or just want a calm and positive start to your weekend, you’re very welcome. Come along, meet like-minded women, and enjoy a gentle Saturday morning walk in beautiful Greenwich. \*\*\*\*\* PLEASE ONLY RSVP IF YOU ARE PLANNING TO ATTEND :) **What to Bring:** * Comfortable shoes * Water * A friendly attitude **RSVP:** Sign up on Meetup so we know you’re coming! We can’t wait to meet you.

A CLASSIC WALK through north London's top green and wooded area with its impressive Kenwood House. WALK START: **Meeting at Tufnell Park Station (Northern Line - High Barnet Branch** \- Zone 2\)\. Look for Ken with Kens Events/Meetup Badge\. WALK FINISH: Finishing at Golders Green Station (Northern Line). WALK ROUTE: We will walk through the meadows and woods of Hampstead Heath. taking in Parliament Hill and passing by Kenwood House. WALK STOPOUT POINT: We cross a couple of London bus routes. More info: Get out, explore and enjoy London's abundant green spaces and surprising surrounding countryside. Give up the city streets for a day and breathe some fresh air. Improve your overall fitness levels and make some new friends at the same time. **Social Event**: Our walks are social walks, where the emphasis is on meeting new people, enjoying nature, healthy exercise, and fresh air. Our walks are not interrupted with running commentaries or historical lectures, although occasionally features of significance may be pointed out. As such our walks will be continuous with few stops and it is your responsibilty to keep walkers ahead in view and to follow the direction of the walk. We always end the walk at a pub where the socialising can continue. Take this opportunity to visit green parts of London, unknown to most people, and that you would not otherwise have an opportunity to see. FEE: There is a £5 fee for this walking event for those members and guests not holding the Ken's Events Membership card. RAIN POLICY: What about the weather? Light rain or occasional showers is not a problem and the walk will proceed. Only book a walk if you are sure you can attend! Walks will only be cancelled if there is very heavy rain! RISKS: In these walks we use; country stiles,pavements, cross busy roads, public parkland, paths alongside water, bridlepaths, country lanes and other established paths and tracks through woodland, bush and countryside. Wear good sturdy shoes/walking boots. Take care as surfaces may be uneven, there may be low branches and some paths are also used by joggers and cyclists and sometimes cars (country lanes). Some tracks may be muddy and slippery. On occasion we may encounter wild and farm animals. If you require insurance for these walks you must arrange this yourself. No large dogs or small children please. Please arrive in good time to allow opportunity to use toilets at the start of the walk as there may not be any toilet breaks available during the walk. WANT TO COME ON ANOTHER WALK? For a list of future walks go to[ http://www.meetup.com/KENS-EVENTS-EXPLORE-LONDON-SECRETS/events/](https://www.meetup.com/KENS-EVENTS-EXPLORE-LONDON-SECRETS/events/) DISCLAIMER:All Events on Ken's Events are subject to a disclaimer. Please click here [(http://www.meetup.com/EXPLORE-LONDON-SECRETS/pages/Explore_London_Secrets_Disclaimer/) ](https://www.meetup.com/KENS-EVENTS-EXPLORE-LONDON-SECRETS/pages/14591782/KEN'S_EVENTS_DISCLAIMER/)to view disclaimer. Please post no pre-event messages unless you are posting something relevant for the whole group. Kens Events also has a facebook page. [http://www.facebook.com/Kens.events](http://www.facebook.com/Kens.events) If weekday and evening walks are your thing, then you should join Ken's Weekday and Evenings Walking Group. Click here for more information. [(https://www.meetup.com/KENS-WEEKDAY-EVENING-WALKS/)](https://www.meetup.com/KENS-WEEKDAY-EVENING-WALKS/) When you arrive at the station look for Ken with Kens Events/Meetup Badge outside the station.

# Stop Scrolling. Start Living. Sometimes the best way to meet new people is simple **get out of the house and do something in real life.** With weather still unpredictable, we’re keeping this one simple **we’ll be walking indoor or outdoor at Polaris.** Most people who attend often come alone. **This is a casual social walk designed to meet new people.** No awkward networking. No pressure. Just walking, talking, and good company. Whether you're new to the group or a regular, this is a great way to **get some steps in, meet new people, and do something different on a Tuesday evening.** Location **Polaris Fashion Place** **Meeting Spot:** Outside or just inside **"Dicks Main entrance"** from parking lot Look for the **Meetup sign and green or gold wristbands.** The Plan **6:45 PM — Meetup / Check-in** Arrive, say hello, meet a few people, and get checked in. *The first 15 minutes are usually the best time to meet people before we start walking.* **7:00 PM — Walk Starts (Sharp)** We’ll begin a **casual indoor or outdoor social walk around Polaris Mall.** by the end of the hour we should be near 3 miles approx. 6k steps **8:00 PM — Walk Ends** Anyone who wants to keep the fun going can join us for Topgolf. **Optional Activity** After We’ll head over to **Topgolf** No golf experience needed — **beginners welcome.** **Let’s** **see your best Happy Gilmore swing!!!** To reduce no-shows and keep events sustainable: **$2 — Walk RSVP** **$15 — Optional Topgolf add-on** or **$17 TOTAL** Topgolf is **limited to the first 6 paid players per bay.** If the first bay fills, I’ll open another lane if enough people want to join. **To keep group sizes manageable and reduce no-shows, this event is limited to paid attendees. RSVP alone does not reserve a spot.** Use payment link in comments to confirm your reservation. Even if only 1 person signs up and confirms their rsvp the event will happen! **Important** RSVP alone **does not guarantee a spot.** Paid attendees receive: • Event wristband • Guaranteed Topgolf spot (if purchased) • Inclusion in group activities Why These Events Exist Wise Unlimited events exist to help people: • meet new friends • get off their phones • **do more things in real life** Too many people **want to go do things** but **don’t want to go alone.** This solves that. **Stop scrolling. Start doing stuff.**

Join us this Thursday at 6:30 pm for a nice hike along the Big Walnut Trail along the Gahanna golf course, circling Creekside and back. This 2 mile hike is fully paved and a beautiful walk through the heart of Gahanna.

[The Board Walks](http://www.theboardwalks.com/) are for curious people who love deep conversations. If that sounds like you, **bring a thoughtful topic** and join us for a 5-mile walk (10,000+ steps!). **HOW IT WORKS** **Step 1: Bring a topic** Before you arrive, think of **one** topic you want to explore. A question. A thought that's been on your mind. An obsession you want to geek out on. This is your ticket to the event. **Step 2: Circle up & share** We gather in a circle. Your friendly walk host gives a speech to set the tone. Everyone shares: your name, what you're grateful for, and your topic. That's it. 60 seconds. **Step 3: Walk, talk & float** We walk 5 miles. You naturally drift into conversation with 2-3 people at a time, pulled by topics that spark your curiosity. When you're ready to move on, just say: "I'm going to float!" **Step 4: Feel more alive** Two hours flies by. You're back where you started — but you feel different. More alive. More energized. More connected to yourself and others. That's why regulars join 20+ times. *For more details, read our [Orientation Guide.](https://www.theboardwalks.com/orientation)* **HOW TO BRING A GREAT TOPIC** A great topic = something you're genuinely curious about. Recent topics include: * "What are you passionate about right now?" * "What makes a good friend?" * "What's a belief you used to hold that you've completely changed?" * "How do you want to be remembered?" * "What would you do if money wasn't a factor?" Think of your topic like the dish you're bringing to our conversational potluck. If everyone brings an A+ dish (i.e. energizing, uplifting, expansive), we'll all walk away feeling lighter and brighter. **WHAT TO EXPECT** This isn't a fitness event with casual chitchat. It's a walking think tank where we explore life's big questions together, beyond small talk. *If you're looking for light banter or a standard networking event, this probably isn't the right fit.* But if you crave depth, genuine connection, and conversations that make you feel alive? You'll love it here. **FAQ** * Wear casual athletic attire and sneakers. It's a long walk! * We have multiple first-timers at each event. We work hard to create a welcoming, inclusive, clique-free space. * We welcome people of **all** ages, backgrounds, and industries who align with the [intention](https://www.theboardwalks.com/ground-rules) of this space. * Rain or shine, we've been out here nearly every week since July 2022. If the event is cancelled, we'll let you know. * Dogs, babies in strollers, parents, and friends are welcome — please text/email them the event link so they can RSVP and prepare a topic! **LOGISTICS** * If you'll arrive over 10 minutes late, we suggest skipping the event. It's hard to find us once we start walking, and your host can't answer messages during the event. * This walk is designed for everyone to *move together at the same steady pace* (about 20 min/mile). This format works best when the whole group moves in unison. If you have mobility limitations, we kindly encourage you to find an event better suited to your needs. * There's a restroom along the route at [Tuttle Park Community Center](https://maps.app.goo.gl/KTZJgLE1CrrbRNmJ7), which is about two‑thirds of the way from [Clinton-Como Park](https://maps.app.goo.gl/z8Cx8evwLiWundMe8) to our [turnback point](https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZXk7qUVszLQ8EJxHA). * Read our [Orientation Guide](https://www.theboardwalks.com/orientation) for full details. * If you enjoy the event, send **[this](http://www.theboardwalks.com/)** to a friend or sign up for our **[newsletter](https://theboardwalks.beehiiv.com/)**. We're in multiple cities with more on the way. 🤠👋 **IF YOU WANT TO GO DEEPER...** [The Board](https://stan.store/ellebeecher/p/the-board) is the next step: a high-trust collective for renaissance people devoted to creating, connecting, and building lives that light us up. * This is a global HQ for people who crave big talk, deep connection, and dream collaborations with people across industries. If the walks feel like a spark... The Board is the fire. Apply [here](https://stan.store/ellebeecher/p/the-board).

Hi ladies. We will meet in front of the Nature Center and head to the two Observation decks. We will then hike Hickory Ridge, Ripple Rock, Overlook and Sugarbush trails to get approximately four miles total distance. We will walk approximately a 18 minute mile pace. Please wear appropriate hiking shoes.

We'll get in around 4 miles at Three Creeks Metro Parks, primarily natural trails. 17-18 minute miles, no one left behind, and faster walkers are free to lead out. Optional lunch after! If you're joining for hiking all the metro parks, this is the sixth one!

**Welcome to Drunken Philosophy** a casual, curious social discussion **Optional topic for this meetup: What's up with all the AI hate?** A recent survey found that 74% of Americans have a negative view of AI, and I want to know why. Come out and debate whether AI is good or bad. My hot take: a labor-saving tool that could potentially help cure cancer gets called dangerous because it might raise unemployment or cause a speculative investment bubble, that tells you a lot more about capitalism and the economic system we live under than it does about the tool itself. As a computer programmer, I think AI is a wonderful tool that has increased my productivity by at least an order of magnitude. I'd go so far as to say Claude Code is the best tool I have ever used. Debate me and name a better one. Is AI potentially dangerous? Yes, but so are a lot of tools. Chainsaws. Steam engines (early ones would occasionally explode and kill everyone in the room). Do you think cavemen sat around debating whether fire could be used as a weapon or for self-harm, and decided not to discover it? I have two friends who hate AI for opposite reasons: one thinks it's a fad and not useful, and the other thinks it's going to take over everything and cause human extinction. Come out tonight, have a friendly debate, and make some friends. No lectures. Friendly crowd. Drop in for one drink and stay if it's fun.